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chris
18th July 2004, 23:29
What type of wood would be best for gray's? I do not have any place to get driftwood. Is there a tree that would be safe, like oak or maple or something? It would not be wet just in humid air.

Thank You

nesaraj
19th July 2004, 01:08
oak should be fine....I have heard maple leeches toxic sap

edward
19th July 2004, 02:39
Oak can leach tannins which can lower the pH significantly. I have used both of these with many species of anurans and caudates with no problems.

Ed

chris
19th July 2004, 03:49
Thank you

I also have some interesting willow branches. could I use those?

edward
20th July 2004, 02:21
Willow will leach salicylic acid. I would not recommend willow if it will be submerged at all. You also need to be careful as willow roots very easily.

Ed

kaysie
20th July 2004, 20:58
Ed, at least then the frog wouldnt get a headache!

For those that dont get that: Salicylic acid is used in tea and commercial medicines (such as aspirin) as a pain reliever.

edward
20th July 2004, 22:51
If I remember correctly it is also a rooting stimulant for woody plants.

Ed

jeffrey
20th July 2004, 23:50
Any juveniles should be acne free too as Salicylic acid is used in many propriety acne medications

nesaraj
21st July 2004, 01:08
Yes, I heard that acne problems are a big deal in caudates attending highschool ;)

mike_g
21st July 2004, 03:14
I like using already fallen branches from Beech trees (Fagus granifolia, though sylvatica works well too). Ironwood/American hornbeam (Carpinus caroliniana) works well too. Both trees have attractive bark and wood and esp. with beech, are widely planted so finding a few fallen limbs shoudn't be difficult. Magnolias (M. acuminata, virginia, grandiflora) work well, too.
~Mike

mark
23rd July 2004, 18:17
what about some normal bits of cork. that can normally be brought from good reptile shops.
and it has normally been heat treated.

nesaraj
23rd July 2004, 19:50
Some general info:
For Salicylic acid is not present in most teas. Most teas contain tannins, which is basically tannic acid with water(technically they are called polyphenols).
Tea-tree (and not tea) extract contains salicylic acid. Willow will also leech salicylic acid. Salicylic acid is indeed used in acne medications, beauty products and in aspirin.

mike_g
23rd July 2004, 20:02
Cork bark often dyes the water an unsightly brown and has a tendency to lower the pH. I only use it in terrestrial tanks.
~Mike

joseph
25th July 2004, 01:32
Would manzanita work? I've seen some manzanita branches bleached white by the sun and they are very attractive.

kaysie
25th July 2004, 20:52
Raj, For general info: I didnt say it was found in all tea. i said its used IN tea as a pain reliever. This tea is made from willow bark.