Sexing B.orientalis

[omicron]

I have a pair of B.orientalis, both males, or i gues so since they try amplexus with each other. So i´m looking for a female but i have no clue how to sex them. Actually the smallest of the two i have was thought to be a female, he is way different to the other one, not only size but also head shape, legs, etc.

So if anyone can bring a bit of light about this it would be great. thanx.

[dylan]

Good question! Look at the frogs before you buy them. During mating season, the males have a kind of suction cup looking think at the ends of their fingers.

Another way of telling is if a frog jumps on another frog, it is a male. The one on below is usually female. If the male has accidentally jumped on male, it will get rejected immediately.

they are constantly looking food), so feed an amount you think is appropiate.


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[jamie]

I just bought a handful of FBT's with setup, and one is quite larger then the rest and very green. I know he is a male but how long until I can found out about the rest? I can attach a picture later if that would help?

[nicole]

Take the wait and see approach. When you hear croaking, look in the tank and the one who is doing it is your male or wait until they amplex.

[ajfr0ggy]

I don't think you can tell by size or colour. Relying on which one a male grabs is pretty unreliable too, although sometimes you can see them grabbing onto other males, and can see that its out of aggression. But i doubt you'll be able to watch them in so much detail at a shop! Females will also make the "go away" call when grabbed too.

Some individuals are really easy to tell apart, you can see instantly, the males are usually spikier, thicker arms, possibly with more white tubercles. Also, in the breeding season, males have thicker "thumbs", although its often not very clear. Females are smoother, and more pear shaped. Its usually not that easy though, and can be unreliable.

[rodrigo]

Thank you. As i´ve never seen a female myself i guess i wouldn´t be able to identify it. Experience is the key in this kind of things. Anyway my couple have been trying amplexus for three years hehe both are males, that´s for sure. If i ever happen to find a supossed female, i´ll take the risk and hope for the best.

[han]

When the toads are adults and well-fed there's
a difference in the webbing between the toes of
the hind-leg: the female webbing-inlet is "deeper" as shown at the pic (male/female's right legs)
Han

http://www.caudata.org/forum/messages/24791/81516.jpg

[nicole]

I thought I heard that before! But, I had forgotten which had the "deeper" webbing. Nice picture!