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Hey everyone, first time. Okay, I've got a ten gallon aquarium with one fire belly newt. I am going to make it 3/4 water with a slope going on to land. Maybe about 3-4 inches of water. I cant seem to find anything (preferably from *a particular vendor*) that can live with my fire belly. Does anyone know an interesting one????????

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First off, a ten gallon tank is the smaller advisable volume for the species. Mostly because a smaller volume makes it very difficult to maintain water quality. The species when healthy and adult is entirely aquatic. If housed properly they may never venture out of water, or only for a quick walk, so a piece of floating cork bark is more than enough for them.
The slope is a bad choice, as deep layers of gravel/sand become anaerobic, plus it takes a lot of the water volume. Youīd be better off with a thin layer of substrate and the rest water...you should fill the tank to 3-4cm to the rim. The more water the better for your newt and for you.

About mixing, you can find several threads on this forum about that topic. Mixing caudate species is very unrecomended because there might be problems with predation, agression, territorialism, toxins, illnesses, stress....
Mixing with fish is rarely a good idea. Only a few small cool water species can be safely kept with newts. You can also find information about that in the forum.
Your newt should only be in the company of others of itīs species.

Since you are looking for recomendations, iīll say that you could keep white cloud minnows with your newt. Also some small fresh water shrimps seem to do fine, although they may get eaten. Snails such as Physa or Planorbis often appear naturally in stablished tanks since they come with the plants, and they are fine.
An stablished healthy tank develops a whole community of invertebrates like Cyclops, nematodes, Planaria, ostracods, daphnia...which makes it full of life. Perdonally itīs all the variety and mixing i need in my tanks.
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Okay... so there arent ANY newts I can use?
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Nope....
Only Cynops orientalis which is the species of the newt you have.
Any other species is potentially a thread, and mixing them involves risks which you and your newts are better off without.
I donīt mean to sound rude or square minded about this, but mixing species does come with risks, invariably, and although itīs ultimately the keeperīs choice, i canīt recomend (and i know many others would agree with me) mixing caudate species in any combination.
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A duplication of information is generally unnecessary - but ...

No there is not another newt or animal you can house with your current newt.

Your current newt is being housed in less than optimal conditions.

If you had a larger tank and proper conditions, you could possibly add another newt of the same species.
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Hello
Take a look at the Caudata Culture page for Cynops orientalis. It has great info about the care and breeding of this cool little newt.
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