The longest running Amphibian Community on the Internet.

Tags Register FAQ Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Caudata.org Store


Caudata.org funding – Donations re-instatement

This is a discussion on Caudata.org funding – Donations re-instatement within the Caudata.org Announcements and News forums, part of the General Topics category; Dear All, After much deliberation the decision has been made to re-instate donation funding for caudata.org. Recent shortfalls in support ...

Caudata.org Announcements and News Announcements, news and information about Caudata.org.

Like Tree2Likes
  • 1 Post By zoezakella
  • 1 Post By FRANCOIS

Reply

 

LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 25th April 2010   #1 (permalink)
Administrator
 
Mark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Nationality:
Location: [ Members Only ]
Posts: 3,241
Gallery Images: 898
Comments: 26
Rep: Mark goes to 11Mark goes to 11Mark goes to 11Mark goes to 11Mark goes to 11Mark goes to 11Mark goes to 11Mark goes to 11Mark goes to 11Mark goes to 11Mark goes to 11
Default Caudata.org funding – Donations re-instatement

Dear All,

After much deliberation the decision has been made to re-instate donation funding for caudata.org. Recent shortfalls in support and some minority attitudes led to a thorough review of funding options which also included a member’s poll. Thank you to all who voted and expressed an opinion.

One option available is the use of advertising revenue, and a number of you indicated that this would be acceptable if donations were no longer viable. We would like to avoid advertising if possible but recognise that it’s a realistic option should member support fall short.

Our intention is to make monthly donation income and spending figures available to forum members. This not only provides accounting transparency but gives a clear view of the donation scheme feasibility.

At minimum this site costs £50 ($77) a month to host, although there are ad hoc fees such as domain renewals and upgrades. We hope the generosity of members will continue to keep this wonderful forum ad free for many more years.

-Mark



Mark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd May 2010   #2 (permalink)
Founder
 
John's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Nationality:
Location: [ Members Only ]
Age: 40
Posts: 7,829
Gallery Images: 204
Comments: 118
Rep: John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)
Default Re: Caudata.org funding – Donations re-instatement

April 2010
Total money received after paypal fees: US$ 106.00*
April Hosting cost (converting $ to £): - US $ 78.47
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Remainder carried forward to May: US $ 27.53
Money received so far in May: US $ 4.50**
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Total money available so far for May costs: US $ 32.03
Approximate difference with May hosting fee: - US $ 46.44

* Denotes amount is approximate due to single € donation (yes, only one person donated in €uro for the whole of April - sadly, the vast majority of the money came from the US members in April).
** Denotes amount is approximate due to another € donation




Last edited by John; 2nd May 2010 at 08:30.
John is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8th May 2010   #3 (permalink)
2010 Research Grant Donor
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Nationality:
Location: [ Members Only ]
Posts: 1,835
Gallery Images: 0
Comments: 0
Rep: Shizeric is a mainstay of Caudata.orgShizeric is a mainstay of Caudata.orgShizeric is a mainstay of Caudata.orgShizeric is a mainstay of Caudata.orgShizeric is a mainstay of Caudata.orgShizeric is a mainstay of Caudata.orgShizeric is a mainstay of Caudata.org
Default Re: Caudata.org funding – Donations re-instatement

Quote:
Originally Posted by John View Post
sadly, the vast majority of the money came from the US members in April).


Why did you put "sadly" in there?



Shizeric is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th May 2010   #4 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Nationality:
Location: [ Members Only ]
Posts: 16
Gallery Images: 0
Comments: 0
Rep: Joe Blecha is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Caudata.org funding – Donations re-instatement

I figure even a $10 donation is cheaper than buying a book. I personally have never seen a book with even a fraction of the information available on this site. Well worth the money to keep the site up and running...

Cheers,
-Joe-



Joe Blecha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th May 2010   #5 (permalink)
Founder
 
John's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Nationality:
Location: [ Members Only ]
Age: 40
Posts: 7,829
Gallery Images: 204
Comments: 118
Rep: John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)
Default Re: Caudata.org funding – Donations re-instatement

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shizeric View Post
Why did you put "sadly" in there?
It just seems like Europeans are much less willing to donate, despite the huge silent membership we have from mainland Europe (hello in particular to our German and Dutch anonymous members).

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Blecha View Post
I figure even a $10 donation is cheaper than buying a book. I personally have never seen a book with even a fraction of the information available on this site. Well worth the money to keep the site up and running...
Very kind words - thank you!



John is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th May 2010   #6 (permalink)
Founder
 
John's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Nationality:
Location: [ Members Only ]
Age: 40
Posts: 7,829
Gallery Images: 204
Comments: 118
Rep: John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)
Default Re: Caudata.org funding – Donations re-instatement

This is an updated version as of Thursday May 13th 2010

April 2010

Total money received after paypal fees: US$ 106.00*
April Hosting cost (converting $ to £): - US $ 78.47
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Remainder carried forward to May: US $ 27.53

May 2010
Money received so far in May: US $ 186.36**
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Total money available so far for May costs: US $ 218.39
Approximate difference with May hosting fee: US $ 139.92

* Denotes amount is approximate due to single € donation (yes, only one person donated in €uro for the whole of April - sadly, the vast majority of the money came from the US members in April).
** Denotes amount is approximate due to another € donation



John is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th July 2010   #7 (permalink)
Member
 
deliriah's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Nationality:
Location: [ Members Only ]
Posts: 236
Gallery Images: 0
Comments: 0
Rep: deliriah is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Caudata.org funding – Donations re-instatement

Are June's totals not available yet? so far this looks good. Also I would like to donate as well, but I am not sure how I should go about it. I agree with Joe Blecha on this. The information I've found here is well worth donating, especially if it helps to keep this information open to others who may find it helpful.



deliriah is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th July 2010   #8 (permalink)
Founder
 
John's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Nationality:
Location: [ Members Only ]
Age: 40
Posts: 7,829
Gallery Images: 204
Comments: 118
Rep: John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)
Default Re: Caudata.org funding – Donations re-instatement

Update as of Monday July 12th 2010

May 2010

Money carried forward: US $ 218.39*
Money received in May: +US $ 93.33*
Total Money available at the end of May: US $ 311.72
Hosting fees end of May: -US $ 76.00**
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Total money available carried forward to June: US $ 235.72

June 2010
Money carried forward: US $ 235.72*
Money received in June: +US $ 123.84*
Total Money available at the end of June: US $ 359.56
Hosting fees end of June: -US $ 76.00**
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Total money available carried forward to July: US $ 283.56

July 2010 (as of July 12th 2010)
Money carried forward: US $ 283.56*
Money received so far in July: +US $ 13.31*
Total Money available at the end of June: US $ 296.81


There have only been 2 donations so far in July, so all that early enthusiasm from when we re-instated donations seems to be waning.

* Denotes amount is approximate due to € donations
** Amount is approximate due to currency conversion



John is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29th July 2010   #9 (permalink)
Member
 
hendrixtheaxie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Nationality:
Posts: 50
Gallery Images: 0
Comments: 0
Rep: hendrixtheaxie is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Caudata.org funding – Donations re-instatement

Just an idea but how about ask members to participate in surveys that Caudata.org gets paid for by marketing companies I would assume that there would be a market for opinions for the demographic of people that are using this site. Its just a thought.Ps I wouldn't mind
advertising on the site even though the site looks great without it. These days everyone
is selling ad space on the site and it is a great way to pay for hosting etc.



hendrixtheaxie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30th July 2010   #10 (permalink)
Founder
 
John's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Nationality:
Location: [ Members Only ]
Age: 40
Posts: 7,829
Gallery Images: 204
Comments: 118
Rep: John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)
Default Re: Caudata.org funding – Donations re-instatement

That's a bit on the hokey side. Please stay on topic of the thread - if you have further ideas then start a new thread.



John is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th August 2010   #11 (permalink)
Founder
 
John's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Nationality:
Location: [ Members Only ]
Age: 40
Posts: 7,829
Gallery Images: 204
Comments: 118
Rep: John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)
Default Re: Caudata.org funding – Donations re-instatement

July 2010
Money carried forward from June: US $ 283.56*
Money received in July: +US $ 198.77*
Total Money available at the end of July: US $ 482.33
Forum Softwares fees: -US $ 35.00**
Hosting fees end of July: -US $ 82.00**
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Total money available carried forward to August: US $ 365.33

* Denotes amount is approximate due to € donations
** Amount is approximate due to currency conversion




Last edited by John; 27th August 2010 at 00:25.
John is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27th August 2010   #12 (permalink)
Founder
 
John's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Nationality:
Location: [ Members Only ]
Age: 40
Posts: 7,829
Gallery Images: 204
Comments: 118
Rep: John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)
Default Re: Caudata.org funding – Donations re-instatement

With only a few days left in August, you can see that this has been by far the worst month for donations since we reinstated the system.



John is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th September 2010   #13 (permalink)
Prolific Member
 
zoezakella's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Nationality:
Location: [ Members Only ]
Age: 41
Posts: 990
Gallery Images: 0
Comments: 1
Rep: zoezakella is a well respected, valued and knowledgeable member of Caudata.orgzoezakella is a well respected, valued and knowledgeable member of Caudata.orgzoezakella is a well respected, valued and knowledgeable member of Caudata.orgzoezakella is a well respected, valued and knowledgeable member of Caudata.orgzoezakella is a well respected, valued and knowledgeable member of Caudata.orgzoezakella is a well respected, valued and knowledgeable member of Caudata.org
Default Re: Caudata.org funding – Donations re-instatement

Sorry I missed August but will be donating for September!! I am new to the axie world and love this site it is my new facebook!!! The people on here are not only fantastically helpful but its nice being able to chat and appreciate everyone elses pets I could not have done without this site for quite a few things when I got my axies due to bad advice I got from the shops I purchased them from so thank you Caudata & Caudata Members!!!



zoezakella is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th September 2010   #14 (permalink)
Founder
 
John's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Nationality:
Location: [ Members Only ]
Age: 40
Posts: 7,829
Gallery Images: 204
Comments: 118
Rep: John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)
Default Re: Caudata.org funding – Donations re-instatement

August 2010
Money carried forward from July: US $ 365.33*
Money received in August: +US $ 70.04*
Total Money: US $ 435.37
Domain Fees: -US $ 20.00**
Forum Softwares fees: -US $ 30.00**
Hosting fees end of July: -US $ 80.00**
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Total money available carried forward to September: US $ 305.37

* Denotes amount is approximate due to € donations
** Amount is approximate due to currency conversion




Last edited by John; 12th September 2010 at 15:59.
John is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29th November 2010   #15 (permalink)
Member
 
Heather at HMSG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Nationality:
Location: [ Members Only ]
Posts: 87
Gallery Images: 0
Comments: 1
Rep: Heather at HMSG has given good advice and informationHeather at HMSG has given good advice and informationHeather at HMSG has given good advice and information
Default Re: Caudata.org funding – Donations re-instatement

Hi John - I have only just found this thread (sorry - Autumn Term here is so manic I rarely have time to log in).

Any update since August?

I did wonder what was happening donor-wise some months back, when the system was 'withdrawn'. I think I have a part of the picture now.

I love & appreciate this resource.

Heather



Heather at HMSG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd December 2010   #16 (permalink)
2010 Research Grant Donor
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Nationality:
Location: [ Members Only ]
Posts: 1,835
Gallery Images: 0
Comments: 0
Rep: Shizeric is a mainstay of Caudata.orgShizeric is a mainstay of Caudata.orgShizeric is a mainstay of Caudata.orgShizeric is a mainstay of Caudata.orgShizeric is a mainstay of Caudata.orgShizeric is a mainstay of Caudata.orgShizeric is a mainstay of Caudata.org
Default Re: Caudata.org funding – Donations re-instatement

Any particular reason there haven't been updates for Sept/Oct/Nov?



Shizeric is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5th June 2011   #17 (permalink)
Founder
 
John's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Nationality:
Location: [ Members Only ]
Age: 40
Posts: 7,829
Gallery Images: 204
Comments: 118
Rep: John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)John has maxed out Caudata.org's Reputation System (we are not worthy!)
Default Re: Caudata.org funding – Donations re-instatement

Sorry for not updating since last August. Here's a complete summary for September 2010 - May 2011 inclusive. These numbers are somewhat approximate due to currency changes over the past 9 months.

Money carried forward from August 2010: US $ 305.37
Money received from Sept. 2010 - May 2011 inclusive: +US $ 1236.85
Total Money: US $ 1542.22
Domain Fees: -US $ 45.00
Software Fees: -US $ 35.00
Hosting fees paid in period (approx): -US $ 800
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Total money available carried forward to June: ~US $ 662

Sounds good but I've been letting it build up in order to pay for vBulletin 4 and some vB 4 related accoutrements. That will likely take out $400 or slightly more.

By the way, because of the headache of managing multiple currencies, I've removed Euros as an option of donating. This is simply because most of the donations come in as US dollars. The only currency issue I have to keep track of now is when changing $$ to Pounds to pay for the hosting (we are a UK site).



John is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd July 2011   #18 (permalink)
Member
 
FRANCOIS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Nationality:
Location: [ Members Only ]
Age: 50
Posts: 316
Gallery Images: 0
Comments: 0
Rep: FRANCOIS has given consistently good advice and informationFRANCOIS has given consistently good advice and informationFRANCOIS has given consistently good advice and information
Default Re: Caudata.org funding – Donations re-instatement

I will be happy to recommend to you a Company / Site where you can host for $9.95 / month and re-register every year for about $12
Your hosting seems very expensive and way more than you should pay. And, the hosting Company I use is very reliable, site is never ever down.
Cheers
Francois



FRANCOIS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd July 2011   #19 (permalink)
Member
 
Aaran's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Nationality:
Location: [ Members Only ]
Age: 24
Posts: 381
Gallery Images: 0
Comments: 0
Rep: Aaran has shown reliable knowledge
Default Re: Caudata.org funding – Donations re-instatement

Dont forget francois, its also to do with how many visits the website gets the more you get = the more you pay for hosting.



__________________
>( ' - ' )<
Aaran is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd July 2011   #20 (permalink)
Member
 
FRANCOIS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Nationality:
Location: [ Members Only ]
Age: 50
Posts: 316
Gallery Images: 0
Comments: 0
Rep: FRANCOIS has given consistently good advice and informationFRANCOIS has given consistently good advice and informationFRANCOIS has given consistently good advice and information
Default Re: Caudata.org funding – Donations re-instatement

Depends on the hosting plan you get.



FRANCOIS is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

LinkBack
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads

Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
2010 Caudata.org Amphibian Ark Donations Drive (Closed) John 2010 Grant 10 7th April 2010 05:31
2010 Caudata.org Amphibian Ark Donations Drive John Caudata.org Announcements and News 0 5th April 2010 20:48
funding vs. nature...sigh cheddarsox Field Herping Accounts 2 31st May 2008 22:58


All times are GMT. The time now is 20:32.