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This is a discussion on Canada Law within the Laws/Legality and Ethics forums, part of the Herpetological Science & Politics category; Here is some information about the importation of Newts/Salamander into Canada. Federally: (Governing what wildlife is exported or imported) Importation ...

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Here is some information about the importation of Newts/Salamander into Canada.

Federally: (Governing what wildlife is exported or imported)
Importation of Amphibians and Reptiles - Canadian Food Inspection Agency
"Please be advised that amphibians and reptiles (excluding turtles and tortoises) are no longer regulated under the Health of Animals Regulations* and as a result, no Canadian Food Inspection Agency import permit is required, nor a health certificate and no inspection will normally be done at the border. Imports are permitted from any country, for any use, to any destination in Canada." (http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english/...turtlese.shtml)

Wild Animal and Plant Protection and Regulation of International and Interprovincial Trade Act
- This act states that only the importation of endangered species listed on CITES will need a permit.
(http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/showdoc....5///en?page=1)

And the only caudata listed on CITES are Appendix II - Axolotl and Appendix I - Chinese/Japanese Giant Salamander.

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Provincially: (Governing interprovincial transportation, native species): (Only Ontario in here)
Fish and Wildlife Conservation Act, 1997
- This act requires permit for collecting game wildlife (Only amphibian is Bull Frog)
- Most salamander species in Ontario can not be kept in captivity, other than Eastern Newts and Mudpuppies. You may keep a single animal of the other Ontario salamander for education purpose, provided they are not protected by Endangered Species Act, 2007 and Species at Risk Act (Canada). Those salamanders (except Easter Newts and Mudpuppies) are not allowed to be imported into or exported out of Ontario except with a permit.

(http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/sta...es_97f41_e.htm)

Municipal: (this govern what you can keep in captivity and collection regulation in the local area. Have nothing to do with importation and exportation)
- Please check regionally by the municipal where you live in.


Special Note:
- This is a summary I made by reading through the regulation and researching. For reference only, not meant to be a complete perfect list.
- I will attempt to make some calls to the governments to understand more in the future. Please feel free to help validate the information here.

Refereces:
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en

Species at Risk Act
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/showtdm/cs/S-15.3

Wild Animal and Plant Protection and Regulation of International and Interprovincial Trade Act
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/showtdm/cs/W-8.5

CITES
http://www.cites.ec.gc.ca/eng/sct0/index_e.cfm

Canadian Wildlife Service - Regulations
(Treating Native Wildlife)
http://www.cws-scf.ec.gc.ca/theme.cfm?lang=e&category=9

(Commercial Trade in Wildlife)
http://www.on.ec.gc.ca/wildlife/enfo...mercial-e.html

Ontario Ministry of Natural Resources
(In keeping wildlife as pets)
http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/en/Business...02_168424.html

Fish and Wildlife Conservation Act, 1997
http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/sta...es_97f41_e.htm

Canadian Food Inspection Agency
(Importing Reptile and Amphibian into Canada)
http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english/...turtlese.shtml

Ref Website:
http://www.mcwetboy.com/reptiles/laws.php

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Here is some information about the importation of Newts/Salamander into Canada.

Federally: (Governing what wildlife is exported or imported)
Importation of Amphibians and Reptiles - Canadian Food Inspection Agency
"Please be advised that amphibians and reptiles (excluding turtles and tortoises) are no longer regulated under the Health of Animals Regulations* and as a result, no Canadian Food Inspection Agency import permit is required, nor a health certificate and no inspection will normally be done at the border. Imports are permitted from any country, for any use, to any destination in Canada." (http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english/...turtlese.shtml)
That seems pretty accurate to me. The country of export sometimes requires some paperwork. For amphibians and reptiles going from the U.S. to Canada an export inspection is required by U.S. Fish and wildlife. Normally their aren't inspections required for stuff leaving a country. Inspections are most often required for stuff entering a country. The export inspection requirement is often ignored by residents of Canada importing salamanders.

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For amphibians and reptiles going from the U.S. to Canada an export inspection is required by U.S. Fish and wildlife. Normally their aren't inspections required for stuff leaving a country. Inspections are most often required for stuff entering a country. The export inspection requirement is often ignored by residents of Canada importing salamanders.
Yes, it is indeed disappointing that Export from U.S. require permit and inspection. Since most captive breeds are available from States, and it is just so difficult to cross the border to Canada. Does anyone know which countries have less strict export requirement?

Canada really have very few species of Newts/Salamander available at all, not to mention captive breed.
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Yes, it is indeed disappointing that Export from U.S. require permit and inspection. Since most captive breeds are available from States, and it is just so difficult to cross the border to Canada. Does anyone know which countries have less strict export requirement?

Canada really have very few species of Newts/Salamander available at all, not to mention captive breed.
So to confirm.. can i legally keep an axolotl in ontario?
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Does this mean I can't keep an Axolotl in Ontario? I just want to make sure I understand this correctly.
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As I understand the above, it is legal to keep an axolotl in Ontario. Problems may arise when trying to import an animal to Canada from another country, such as the United States, due to export restrictions from the country of origin.
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You may keep one in Canada. Though you Will have to get permits ect to bring it in as noted. Though if it is Already in Canada then it won't be a problem. Though as i read above it says you are allowed one eastern newt or Mudpuppy for educational purpose? Though not any other types if you reside in ontario?
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How about if I wanted to keep two or more Axies at the same time if they are both captive bred in Canada?

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Axolotls aren't native to Ontario, mudpuppies and eastern newts are. They aren't subject to the same restrictions.

Exports from the USA to Canada do not require export permits unless they are judged to be commercial shipments. Animals brought back with you for personal use need only the 3-177 wildlife declaration, which is stamped [and the animals examined, theoretically] at the USA port of exit. Nothing is required on the Canadian side, on average.

Some states require export permits, even for animals going to other states. ESA and CITES animals require federal export permits. Turtles require Canadian CFIA import permits.

SARA only applies to the designated Canadian populations. For instance, you can keep any kind of tiger salamander you want in Alberta, but you can't touch the wild populations of BC or Ontario. You can keep any kind of Dicamptodon you want in some provinces, but you can't touch the wild populations in BC.

Basically, like the USA, Canada as a whole has no restrictions on the keeping of herps - this is largely a matter for individual states and provinces to determine.
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You need an export permit from the US for Axolotls. They are appendix II species. You don't need an import permit from the Canadian side. You only require an import permit for appendix I species in Canada. If you are exporting appendix I or II species from Canada, then you need an export permit through CITES Canada.
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