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These two salamanders are both from California, but may be different species. The first is from a zoo somewhere, and looks like a giant coastal salamander, but appears to be neotonic? The second is from the wild, in lake ilsanjo.
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For sure a Dicamptodon species, I don't know how to tell apart the species that occur in that area though. The second animal could very well be neotenic, but that could be a matter of perspective, as I have no clue on the size of the second animal, or a good look at the eyes. The gills on the first animal seem shrunken, almost ready to morph, not to mention the eyelids being formed from what I can see, but then again, could also be perspective



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