Male or female

is this animal male or female?

and this one? animal 2

If you carefully open the cloaca up with your fingers, females have a small round aperture, whereas males have a slit.

Chris

[wouter]

Rob, due to some reason, I can't see the pictures at the Dutch forum, so I'll respond here!
This is a male. I presume this is the small dark variety again, the sex is very easy to see in this variety, even without opening the cloaca.

Wouter,

These 2 pictures are from different animals, so do you mean both are male?

I don't know what variety they are, I obtained them as youngsters from one of our French friends that visit the dutch "salamanderlanddag"

I will put 2 extra pictures in this post of the same animals as above, maybe you can tell me more about the variety then.

I Already asked my French friend, but he can't help me with more information about the background of the animals. The only thing he said was that he thought that they ware from India, because of the coloration

Animal 1




Animal 2

[wouter]

Yes, they both look like males to me. these look exactly like the small dark variety that Mark and I have.

These are certainly not from India, the morphology of the animals is different. There have been some personal imports of T. verrucosus from India in the '70, but I think that these animals are all expired or hybridisised by now.

I've seen pics of this variety from Doi Inthanon, Thailand... but of course you can never be certain of the origin.

My animùals come from the same source and they are quite dark animals. To me -as mentioned beofre- they are bullet proof and incredibly easy to keep , to at all like the orange forms at all. I once received 4 larvae just after hatching and reared for adults out of that, so they are truly easy to keep.