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Id hainanensis/ asperrimus or wenxianensis ?

This is a discussion on Id hainanensis/ asperrimus or wenxianensis ? within the Crocodile Newts (Tylototriton & Echinotriton)... forums, part of the Species, Genus & Family Discussions category; I have this animal now for about 18 months and got it from it's former keeper. It was imported in ...

Crocodile Newts (Tylototriton & Echinotriton)... Two popular genera of Asian newts, the crocodile newts are diverse of habit, habitat, and appearance. The Mandarin or Emperor Newt, Tylototriton shanjing, is highly sought after.

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Old 26th December 2007   #1 (permalink)
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Default Id hainanensis/ asperrimus or wenxianensis ?

I have this animal now for about 18 months and got it from it's former keeper. It was imported in Germany about 2 - 3 years ago. This is a female animal , she eats really well and is fairly easy to keep. It's id is somewhat difficult but depepnding on what I read so far I would go for hainanensis

Here you see the ribs don't penetrate too much (but she is quite fat)
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Cloaca is colored
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A view on the belly (transversal lines or not ...)
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Further a view from above , the head is not that wide, but remember it's a female...
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After our update I can post some links to clarify... Its T. wenxianensisin my opinion.

Tylototriton asperrimus is large (up to 200 mm) and always has the dorso-lateral warts; http://www.tylototriton.org/T.%20asperrimus.htm

Tylototriton hainanensis is very similar to the former; http://www.tylototriton.org/Hainanensis%20WL6.jpg

And finally T. wenxianensis is small (up to 160 mm), has no dorso-lateral warts and has a very flat head; http://www.tylototriton.org/wenxianensis2.jpg
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It looks alot like my T.Wenxianensis. I wouldn't say it was Hainanensis, or at least it's not like any of the Hainanensis i've seen.
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