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T.kweichowensis or T.shanjing?

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Crocodile Newts (Tylototriton & Echinotriton)... Two popular genera of Asian newts, the crocodile newts are diverse of habit, habitat, and appearance. The Mandarin or Emperor Newt, Tylototriton shanjing, is highly sought after.

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Default T.kweichowensis or T.shanjing?

Hi folks,

i was looking for Tylototriton verrucosus but can't seem to find any source in my area.


i have seen T.kweichowensis and T.shanjing in my area sometimes.
but i never got them.

just some questions in case i see them again,
1) which is easier to keep, T.kweichowensis or T.shanjing?
2) which is more aquatic?

i prefer a more aquatic spieces like Tylototriton verrucosus or P. chinensis as i have a chiller to cool them down.

i am currently keeping 3
P. chinensis

please advice.

thanks.

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In my opinion they are both easy to keep. T. kweichowensis require a larger water area during breeding season, they can even be kept in a primarily aquatic setup during this time.
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Hi freves,

Thanks for your advice.

i have real problem keeping land based newts in my area Singapore.
the room temp here is All Summer 28*C - 29*C
water temp is around 26*C to 27*C

i am currently keeping only aquatic newts like P. chinensis which stays in water all times.
my water level is 15cm high and my chiller can cool them to 22*C.

i just want to check if T. kweichowensis or T.shanjing can be keep in the same setup?
if not, what's the maximum water level for them?

i don't think chiller has an effect on land cooling.

just want to confirm before i buy them and not killing them.

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In my opinion they are both easy to keep. T. kweichowensis require a larger water area during breeding season, they can even be kept in a primarily aquatic setup during this time.
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Hmm. You may want to hold off on getting either of these species if you cannot keep it any cooler than that. T. kweichowensis are more aquatic during the breeding season however in my experience they spend most of their time on land.
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I agree, and I'd also like to add that while T.kweichowensis can be aquatic for part of the year, T.shanjing is almost exclusively a terrestrial species. Perhaps you would be better off with other members of the genus Paramesotriton? perhaps Cynops sp.?
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Hi Folks,

thanks for advice.

yes i agree, i won't get any T.kweichowensis or T.shanjing since i cannot provide the correct temp on land. i don't want to murder them...lolz

how about Tylototriton verrucosus ?
is it easier to keep? and is it very aquatic like P. chinensis ?

i need to ask around for Tylototriton verrucosus, not easy to get them here...


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how about Tylototriton verrucosus ?
is it easier to keep? and is it very aquatic like P. chinensis ?

i need to ask around for Tylototriton verrucosus, not easy to get them here...
T.verrucosus is usually considered a fairly easy to keep species. I keep some and would recommend them wholeheartedly. As juveniles they can be kept aquatically or terrestrially, depending on size and the adults can be kept fully aquatic.

As you've linked to the Caudata Culture care-sheet, I'm sure you know what a wealth of information it provides on them.
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