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This is a discussion on Triturus macedonicus within the Eurasian Newts (Triturus, former Triturus, Calotriton & Euproctus).. forums, part of the Species, Genus & Family Discussions category; Ok, this post is exploratory more than anything and to satisfy my curiosity. Is anyone keeping Triturus macedonicus in the ...

Eurasian Newts (Triturus, former Triturus, Calotriton & Euproctus).. Triturus and its relatives (Ichthyosaura/Mesotriton, Lissotriton, and Ommatotriton) are a diverse and widespread group of newts. While mainly European, several species can be found in the Near and Middle East. Euproctus, the brook newts, are confined to Corsica and Sardinia.

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Ok, this post is exploratory more than anything and to satisfy my curiosity. Is anyone keeping Triturus macedonicus in the hobby at the moment? The cristatus superspecies is pretty close to my heart (as anyone who's read any of my other posts will know) and I've been offered some eggs the next time spring comes around. I suspect this may be a first, certainly in England, but if not I'd be interested in hearing other peoples experiences/opinions.



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I dont personally know of anyone in the uk maitaining confirmed T.macedonicus, but im sure there are.
Gunter Schultschik breeds and sells carnifex, but at least some of his animals seem to be what is now considered macedonicus(i obviously have never seen all of his breeding adults). If you check the pictures, one of the males under "carnifex" looks very macedonicus to me(third pic). Since he is a very successful breeder and has a good reputation, a lot of people acquire animals from him....so they might be more extended than we might think. Hopefully he is not mixing the bloodlines...



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Thanks Azhael. That pic certainly looks alot like T.macedonicus. Although, their morphology is by far the most variable of all the cristatus superspecies, which only serves to confuse things!




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They are a gorgeous species. Are they captive bred much?



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It certainly seems that they aren't. I only know of one person doing it intentionally. As Azhael says, I'm sure there's many in the hobby under the tag carnifex. I'm quite excited about potentially helping to bring the species into the hobby!



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Here are photos taken by a french enthusiast in the region of Zagoria in Greece, he identified them as Triturus karelinii but for me these are of Triturus macedonicus sub-species :

http://www.pharmanatur.com/Batracien...elinii%201.JPG

http://www.pharmanatur.com/Batracien...elinii%204.JPG

http://www.pharmanatur.com/Batracien...elinii%206.JPG

http://www.pharmanatur.com/Batracien...elinii%207.JPG

http://www.pharmanatur.com/Batracien...linii%2051.JPG

http://www.pharmanatur.com/Batracien...0karelinii.JPG



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And here are photos taken by Lars Bergendorf and Tommi Sandberg in Prespa Greece :

http://www.club100.net/species/T_mac...e_0005_LB1.jpg

http://www.club100.net/species/T_mac...e_0005_LB2.jpg

http://www.club100.net/species/T_mac...d_0005_TS1.jpg

http://www.club100.net/species/T_mac...d_0005_TS2.jpg



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