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I'm very excited I traded some Louisiana newt egg for some cynops Orientals eggs. They got stuck in the mail . He shipped them on the march 24th i got them april 11th. Three of them made it and hatched during shipping . But they are eating and getting bigger. I think they grow twice as fast as Louisiana newt larvae.



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Awesome! Make sure you post pictures!



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Here are some pics of my new family. Doing great after my three night trip.



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Your pics aren't working for some reason, maybe try this way?

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If anyone sees anything I'm doing wrong. Please let me know. Plus went on vacation for 4 days. When I came home had more than enough bbs for 15 larvae . Put around 1/8 tsp bbs in 1 inch 3 cm salt water with baking soda. Keep Out of direct sunlight most important no air pump. Just still no movement in water. Feed 15 larvae 2 times . Day 4 when I came home feed larvae. And day 5 in the morning more where there. I used the bbs egg shell separation idea. I posted to hatch these guys .



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Everything looks good to me, your Hydracotile seems to be growing a lot better than mine ever does!
It's surprising how soon the larvae will be able to manage larger pray like chopped Blackworms or Daphnia if you can get them locally, not that there's anything wrong with feeding the brine shrimp, it will certainly give them nice red bellies when they morph. :)



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I cant get much around here 20 miles 32 km from duluth mn over 85,000 for population. Only fish/pet store is petco and Walmart. They carry frozzen blood worms, frozen brine shrimp. Night crawler, Wax worms , meal worms , red wigglers. I have at home bbs, microworms, frozen blood worms, night crawlers, wax worms and white worms culture just started up 2 weeks ago. So i hope I'm ok



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Seems like you're off to a great start. Looking forward to more. If you're interested in a springtail starter culture for the terrestrial phase let me know.



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A little update my 3 orientals seem to be doing great two have just morphed within the past week . One is still thinking about it. I am waiting on some more plants to stuff my tank full. Is there anything any one would do better for know. I just realized it's going to cost at lest $40 to fill my 5 gallon with more java moss and elodea that will take some time. I cant buy it local and I dont have very good success with the mail so it will take some time. The moss you see is the size of a soft ball and cost me $15 plus had some algea on it
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It looks fine to me. More plants are always better, but the water is pretty shallow so the risk of drowning is minimal.
Did you get them to feed underwater since they morphed yet?



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Hi,
Sorry to jump on your thread, but my C.orientalis terrestrials are about 5 months old. How do you get them to feed underwater, and what on? Thanks



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I find live Whiteworms, Bloodworms, Blackworms or Tubifex easiest in very shallow water easiest. Once they know where the food is you can slowly increase the depth, but only if it's overgrown with plants of some kind.



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Thank you Chinadog, Do you know the best place to get these live in the UK please.



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It looks fine to me. More plants are always better, but the water is pretty shallow so the risk of drowning is minimal.
Did you get them to feed underwater since they morphed yet?
One morphed 3 days before the other one. It would jump in the water when i would come in. I would check on him later and sometimes he was still in the water sometimes back on the rock. It could have eaten i hope it did! Now i moved them to a 5 gallon i haven't seen them in the water. Just on the java moss and on the walls. I put white worms in the parts with less plants so i hope they find it. I offer frozen blood worms off of tweezers with no success. I will start to offer earth worms next time i go to the store. What would you go buy Canadian night crawlers or European earthworms? I haven't had any luck with the Canadian worms with my n.v.l. But i haven't offered the tails yet i just remembered about offering the tails now that I'm writing this.



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Keep in mind that you don't have to buy everything. For three C.orientalis it's pretty easy to gather food, expecially earthworms. Maybe you know someone with a compost heap. That should be loaded with worms, also little ones ideal for your newts. In shallow water setups Dapnia will be eaten as well. There's a lot to find on the internet about gathering live food yourself. Here are a few short tips:

- Get some debris (leave litter and such) from the bottom of a pond or a another lentic water system. Put it in a colander above a bucket with water. As it dries the food items in it will crawl through the colander to reach the water in the bucket.

- If you have a nylon fine woven aquarium net (EUROPET VISNET WIT - Speciaalzaak voor aquarianen en vijver- liefhebbers, met advies en ondersteuning bij aankoop van vissen, planten en benodigdheden. Een van de grootse aquaria/vijvercentrums van europa) you can use this to catch crustaceans like Daphinia in lentic water. You can stick it onto a pole for a better reach. When the sun is shining onto the water surface you get the best results.

- Put some slabs of wet bread onto the soil of your yard. But a piece of cardboard on top of it. After 2 days chances are that there are a lot of white worms underneath the cardboard. This works better if you do this with a compost heap.

Always be careful where you gahter your live food of course.



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Thank you Chinadog, Do you know the best place to get these live in the UK please.
I get most of my live food off ebay and I've never had any problems. It's cheaper, far better quality and I can count on it being there when promised, which is far more than my local aquarium shops can manage.



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They look good, nice colours! I've recently found out small woodlice are also tasty for them (don't know about their nutritional value but for variety at least it's ok) and you could find these, too, in garden on the moist ground, under stones, leaves etc.
What it comes to eating in water, I'd say just be patient. That's what I'm sometimes not...I had my two in water last summer but they never really throve there and for winter, I couldn't leave them in that box so they've been in a terrestial setup again one year. Now again trying to teach them into water (they're soon two years :) ). I have cut earthworms on the very very shallow water and it's also full of mosquito larvae curling there...they still want to sit on lysimachia nummularia leaves...maybe some day



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Thanks again for the info every one. I caught some worms uder a flour mat I put on a spot buy my house with little grass. I through some Canadian night crawlers my newts didn't eat out over a month ago. I think I caught some about 20ft from where I put them .I'll load some pictures. Unless we have them in northern mn? But I cought two types of worms my n.v.l won't eat them. I tried just the tails mail smelled it and ran/swam. The female bit it let go right away and keep her mouth open. And it wasn't for more. Both worms have a slimy coating. I find it in posable to hold worm pieces with tweezers. I going to try European earth worms next. But all three are morphed . Don't know if it's a coincidence but since I have been spraying the glass with water. I have seen all 3 in efts in and out of the water. I spray the efts so they slowly slide down the glass onto the Java moss. I put some scuds in with them.I have more bbs ill through in their to I found 13+ plants 8 to 12 inch long of elodea densa for $6.50. On ebay. Hope it makes it . I really hope I can keep them happy and healthy. I didn't have much luck with my n.v.l efts/larvae. I tried to keep 12 alive and I only have 4 left. Out f 4 3 keep filling up with fluid on and off for the past 3 or 4 weeks. I have them isolated on paper toil with java moss.
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I find live Whiteworms, Bloodworms, Blackworms or Tubifex easiest in very shallow water easiest. Once they know where the food is you can slowly increase the depth, but only if it's overgrown with plants of some kind.




Whiteworms worked great for me. I was nervous putting my morphed C orientals in a new home. Didn't think they would go back in water so soon to eat but they do.



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