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Omg baby Cynops pyrrhogaster!

This is a discussion on Omg baby Cynops pyrrhogaster! within the Fire-Belly & Sword-Tail Newts (Cynops & Hypselotriton) forums, part of the Species, Genus & Family Discussions category; So all this time i've been trying to cool my newts down hoping they'll reproduce soon.. well they obviously have ...

Fire-Belly & Sword-Tail Newts (Cynops & Hypselotriton) Perhaps the most famous and frequently bred newts in captivity, the fire-bellied newts and sword-tail newts are well known throughout the world as being excellent, gregarious captives.

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So all this time i've been trying to cool my newts down hoping they'll reproduce soon.. well they obviously have been! Found this during my tank clean!
How do I keep missing the eggs!? I've seen photos of eggs but exactly how small are they?
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Congratulations! on your new arrivals! :)
Do you have any pics of the parents, I always like to see pyrrho pics, there's just so much variation in this species.
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Here are some pictures

Sorry that I have a million questions these are my first newts!

I've seen on youtube someone keep their babies in a layered office storage shelve.
Would I be able to do this with a draw for eggs, hatchlings and bigger hatchlings? Or would aeration be a problem? I could use oxygen weed or slow release oxygen tabs would that be sufficient?


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Nice one and congrats. The adults were probably eating a whole lot of the eggs off, leaving only the most hidden ones to develop, so you never saw them.
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Sorry that I have a million questions these are my first newts!

I've seen on youtube someone keep their babies in a layered office storage shelve.
Would I be able to do this with a draw for eggs, hatchlings and bigger hatchlings? Or would aeration be a problem? I could use oxygen weed or slow release oxygen tabs would that be sufficient?


Eggs and larvae of my pyrrhos always do best in mature systems with regular small percentage water changes rather than sterile systems with big water changes. I know the sterile way works well for Axolotls, but I find I get high mortality when I try to raise Cynops or Tylototriton that way.

I would either leave them with the parents, or move them to a normal, weedy aquarium, ideally both. Cannibalism is not an issue between larvae of different sizes in my experience and adults will not normally eat their own young once they've hatched, but they love eating their own eggs, especially the females! So I would add loads more live plants to the parents tank to make them harder to find.

A common mistake is to try and rear more larvae than you can feed. If the food is scarce it can mean the whole lot starve to death, so be realistic when collecting eggs. I started with ten eggs the first time I raised pyrrhos and it gave me a lot of slack when learning the ropes.
Good luck, and don't forget to keep us updated! :)

Eta, Beautiful animals, they look like the Kanto race, do you know where they originated.
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Thank you so much Chinadog! Would I be better off attaching them in a small breeder box with a little plant and hiding spots inside the tank so they get the cycled water but are also easy to check up on and put food near? Rather than in a new separate container? :)
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I was going to suggest stuffing some plants with eggs attached into one of those until they hatch, but couldn't remember what they were called, lol.
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Sorry I don't know where they originated from Newts are very uncommon in New Zealand, especially Japanese! The pet shop I rang couldn't even tell me if they were Chinese or Japanese... Was a very happy chappy when my mystery newts arrived!
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I raise mine in mature systems as well, though it's easy to make one with good quality pond water. Else you can use water out of the parents tank and stuff it with Eleodea, which you already have put with the larvae. Once they morph you can keep them aquatic, but with a water depth of maximum 15cm and the water completely filled with plants like Eleodea and moss so they won't drown. You can keep them in drawers, but use the transparant ones so you can put them in front of a window. Your plants will need light.

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