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Newt ID/ confirmation?

This is a discussion on Newt ID/ confirmation? within the Fire-Belly & Sword-Tail Newts (Cynops & Hypselotriton) forums, part of the Species, Genus & Family Discussions category; A few months ago I was browsing a pet store and came across an interesting looking fire belly, so I ...

Fire-Belly & Sword-Tail Newts (Cynops & Hypselotriton) Perhaps the most famous and frequently bred newts in captivity, the fire-bellied newts and sword-tail newts are well known throughout the world as being excellent, gregarious captives.

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A few months ago I was browsing a pet store and came across an interesting looking fire belly, so I brought it home. I was looking online to try to ID it but it is like no firebelly I have ever seen. A friend of mine happened to buy two of the same kind with less visible spots from the same store two weeks prior, so we are hoping to have a possible breeding group. There wasn't much info online or pictures to refer to, based on my research and some people I have spoken to I think it is H. Orphicus, I was wondering if anyone is working with these or could confirm? The spots don't turn out too well in pics, vary from dark to light from time to time. The chubby pic is current. It also has some white spots on its back kind of like a Japanese fire belly, some orange on the dorsal and orange on top of the 'elbows'. Any help is appreciated 🙏🙏
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It looks a lot like H. orphicus indeed. Look at the spots on top of it's front legs on the other side of the armpits.
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I am curious if they are just colour morphs or have possibly already hybridized. I will post updates if there are any! Thank you for your help.
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Beautiful animals! I've seen a couple of colour varieties with H. orientalis, but never this one. Had to google orphicus and they show a lot of similarities.
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