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Fire-Belly & Sword-Tail Newts (Cynops & Hypselotriton) Perhaps the most famous and frequently bred newts in captivity, the fire-bellied newts and sword-tail newts are well known throughout the world as being excellent, gregarious captives.

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Old 17th March 2014   #21 (permalink)
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They still look like very light coloured H. orientals, Like Henry janssen said, they can be influenced by their environment, I think they would get darker on a dark substrate?
The thing is, without knowing exactly where they were collected you will never be 100% certain what they are, it will always be based on somebody's opinion?
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I do not think the light color of my H. orientalis is due to the influence of the environment where I have staying. I leave a photograph of them with other H. orientalis typical black and this black never changes color. I am very intrigued with my newts.Helps identify my Chinese newts-uploadfromtaptalk1395526491598.jpg

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ok thanks again for the help .. I've been looking at photos of hypselotriton orientalis caudata culture and do not see the same as mine ...
Actually, I think there are two photos on the page at caudata culture that look similar to the color of yours.
Caudata Culture Species Entry - Cynops orientalis - Chinese firebelly
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Not all H. orientalis seem to be able to change that dramatically. As frogEyes said, its only the odd one in a batch of hundreds. Imagine that both animals in your last picture were the same colour, you would swear they were both orientalis, but with no collection data that's just another opinion. If frogEyes can't identify them, they will probably remain a mystery.
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Are you mixing them with typical H.orientalis? I highly recommend that you donīt! The odd coloured ones are probably H.orientalis too, sure, but they are distinctive enough that it would be a very good idea to keep them isolated from other bloodlines. If you allow them to mix, either you, or the people you distribute the offspring to will eventually loose track.
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nooHelps identify my Chinese newts-uploadfromtaptalk1395594752430.jpgHelps identify my Chinese newts-uploadfromtaptalk1395594770468.jpgo, I'm not the typical mixing with black. copy of the photo is not mine. is paid to take the picture and say that the copy provided does not change color with respect to the decoration of the aquarium. I will have in mind the lineage when newts have to give to others. which do not tarry in because I have already started births.

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I got these too. They did not produce fertile eggs with the black male, while black females did.
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Hi I have a small breeding group of these exact newts the red spots infront of the eyes is a dead give away.. They are closely related to orientialis but as suspected they are different species or subspecies.. My friend Yunke Wu looked at mine cause no one could id them and he agrees with my thoughts we were gonna do the dna testing but my life hasnt allowed me to thus far...but their cranial shape is slightly different and their skin texture and their ampuli lines are more pronounced and their tail shape is different than orientialis. ..they come in with groups of orientialis but you can see the difference rite away...so as far as i know they are different and still not identified
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