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"Russian" Fire Salamanders

This is a discussion on "Russian" Fire Salamanders within the Fire Salamanders (Salamandra) forums, part of the Species, Genus & Family Discussions category; Yes ,my friend bought fire salamanders in Ukrain...

Fire Salamanders (Salamandra) The first salamanders described, this diverse genus of species and subspecies can be found throughout Europe and the Near-East. They are the animals that first come to mind when most people hear the word "salamander".

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Old 22nd September 2015   #21 (permalink)
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Yes ,my friend bought fire salamanders in Ukrain



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Manderkeeper did you manage to track down a locality for these animals?
Annka I would be very interested in hearing any information about the Ukrainian salamanders.
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I don't know exactly where they were collected, they were exported to USA then sent to a dealer from which I got them, so too far removed. I still have a few pairs but I am banned from shipping them outside my state at the moment.



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Thank you for your reply manderkeeper. Would it be possible to see a couple of pictures of them as I'm keen to compare them with mine?



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Had a search, there is evidence of S. s. s. around Kaliningrad although the debate is whether the sightings were of escapees.
https://www.researchgate.net/profile...1b61000000.pdf



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Sure, I've got photos Ill dig up in the next few days



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Just a heads up manderkeeper - the interstate ban is no longer valid.

Salamandra s. salamandra was exported in large numbers for many years from the Ukraine. I believe it was Professor Kuzmin on Caudata who first mentioned the real source but I may be remembering who it was incorrectly. But Ukraine was (is?) the main source of Salamandra s. salamandra in the USA. I actually have an adult pair that were CB offspring of such animals. I would imagine that many US people blurred Ukraine with Russia, hence the Russian thing.



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