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New records of Salamandra salamandra in Latium (Central Italy)

This is a discussion on New records of Salamandra salamandra in Latium (Central Italy) within the Fire Salamanders (Salamandra) forums, part of the Species, Genus & Family Discussions category; There is an interesting paper in the Herpetological Bulletin, Number 85, Autumn 2003. Published by the British Herpetological Society, this ...

Fire Salamanders (Salamandra) The first salamanders described, this diverse genus of species and subspecies can be found throughout Europe and the Near-East. They are the animals that first come to mind when most people hear the word "salamander".

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There is an interesting paper in the Herpetological Bulletin, Number 85, Autumn 2003.
Published by the British Herpetological Society, this article suggests clinal hybridisation between the two Italian subspecies in Latium, Salamandra s.salamandra from the Alps, pre-Alps and (probably) the Northern Apennines, while S.s.gigliolii is found in peninsula Italy, i.e. Calabria.



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That's very interesting...
Sadly in latium S. salamandra is almost extinct exept for a couple of places Click the image to open in full size.
Where/how would I be able to find this article?
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They have found three more sites along the Melfa River.
The Co-author, Claudio Angelini can be contacted via G. Marconi, 30-04018 Sezze (LT), Italy; E-mail: oppela@tin.it.
Failing that, if you e-mail your address, I will sent you a copy Francesco.



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I'm very interested in this article too!
could you send me a copy at this address Mike?

leloa@hotmail.com

thank you very much

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No sooner said than done Leo.Click the image to open in full size.



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Any chance of a copy old boy ?



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Hi Mike,

could you send me a copy as well? I have seen Salamandra's vfrom different parts of Italy, but if you read the original description of 'gigliolii' a very important character (besides the large yellow area's and the obvious different proportions) of this subspecies is the wine-red coloration of the throat regions.
Animals from for intstance Alpi Apuane have this, but have less yellow. Animals from the area north of Genua are totally different in shape and coloration. Perhaps different migrations took place along the west side and east side of the Apeninnes?



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Hi Serge,
My scan to e-mail software dosn't work.
If you e-mail your home address to me, I will send you a copy by "snail mail".



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You'll get a private message esend by me,

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