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Fire Salamanders (Salamandra) The first salamanders described, this diverse genus of species and subspecies can be found throughout Europe and the Near-East. They are the animals that first come to mind when most people hear the word "salamander".

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Old 23rd August 2009   #41 (permalink)
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I keep Terrestris and Gigliolli looking to add later in the year

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Here is a question to all those who have been collecting salamandra: How does one get started collecting the various types? Most of the types, such as gigliolli, bernardezi, etc are very difficult to find for sale. I would appreciate any advice as to how to get started. I posted something on this web site a few weeks ago, but got no responses.



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I have kept a fire salamander for the past three or four years, and find the species to be very beautiful. I would love to aquire a S. gigliolli to add to my S. salamandra; however, finding any type of Salamandra for sale in Canada is a rare event!



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You just keep your eye on the for sale section of this forum and maybe you will get lucky. But you gotta be fast if you want to get them before others. I got mine by just plain luck.



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1 male s.s salamandra here. It's kind of sad with just 1 fire salamander, I understand they're quite good in small groups.



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Four S.S. gallaica. They are fun to watch all seem to have different levels of personality. Setting a 55 gallon for them so I will be able to look at them all the time instead of a sterilite bin. All of the salamandra are quite pretty so I am looking to expand. Though you need to be quick to get more than a solitary specimen at a time.



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I don't know why, but whenever I try to post on this thread it never comes out. This must be the 3rd time. whats going on?
I have 2 S.s.gallaica



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I currently keep S. s. salamandra, S. s. werneri, S. s. bernardezi, and S. s. alfredschmidti.



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I currently keep S. s. salamandra, S. s. werneri, S. s. bernardezi, and S. s. alfredschmidti.
Please post photos of these if you get the chance!!



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Please post photos of these if you get the chance!!
As you requested, although I could only find pics of these 2 species in the gallery. I'll search around on my memory cards for the other pictures.

S. s. salamandra (I think?)
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S. s. bernardezi
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I have 0.0.2 red phase terrestris
0.0.4 giglioli



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I keep a group of 6 S. s. salamandra. Some times a lot more when they are breeding



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Hello,

I share the enthusiasm for the genus Salamandra for about six years now, so Iīve been keeping Salamandra since 2004. During the last years I had to reduce animals though because of lack of time...
My actual groups are:

S. algira algira
S. salamandra alfredschmidti
S. s. gallaica
S. s. gigliolii
S. s. terrestris

Former kept groups:

S. s. bernardezi
S. s. fastuosa

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As you requested, although I could only find pics of these 2 species in the gallery. I'll search around on my memory cards for the other pictures.

S. s. salamandra (I think?)



S. s. bernardezi
I think that the one in the first photo is S. s. gallaica.




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Hi Aitortxu,

I doubt that - it looks like a typical S.s.salamandra to me. From which characteristics do you recognize it as a gallaica?

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i would go along with Ingo on this, the pattern is too uniform for Gallaica.



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Hi, because it have some red behind eyes at head.



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Hello Aitortxu,

Iīve often seen Salamandra (other than gallaica) with red spots next to the eyes - mostly they can only be seen on photographs taken with flashlight.

In my opinion the animal on the photo does not have the typical body shape of a gallaica.



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Hello.
I have had S. s. galliaca and the one in the photo is not a gallaica, for it lacks any red on the paratnoid glands. A true gallaica must have red paratnoid glands. I agree that S. s. gallaica also have a different body shape-mine were a bit stouter.



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I disagree....there certainly are populations and individuals of gallaica that have very little or lack red. Itīs a subspecies with a huge variability in pattern design and coloration. Also, just because some salamander has red in the head, or anywhere else, it doesnīt mean itīs gallaica....there are plenty of subspecies that present red coloration in different degrees and locations...
And i do certainly agree, it looks like a very typical S.s.salamandra to me too...



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