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Proteus anguinus parkelj

This is a discussion on Proteus anguinus parkelj within the Large Aquatic Salamanders (Hellbenders/Cryptobranchids, Necturus, Siren, etc.) forums, part of the Species, Genus & Family Discussions category; Has anyone seen one of these in captivity (the nominate subspecies too)? Im pretty interested in this species, the subspecies ...

Large Aquatic Salamanders (Hellbenders/Cryptobranchids, Necturus, Siren, etc.) This topic covers Cryptobranchids like the hellbender and Asian giant salamanders, as well as sirens, mud puppies, and amphiumas.

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Old 14th October 2007   #1 (permalink)
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Has anyone seen one of these in captivity (the nominate subspecies too)? Im pretty interested in this species, the subspecies especially. Does anyone have any information on this sub? I havent found anything about them except for the fact that this subspecies has pigmentation and more developed eyes. I'm just curious.



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I've never heard of any olms in captivity in the USA. I believe there are a few in Europe, but the species is threatened and strictly protected. I saw one (nominate) held for display for tourists in a cave in Slovenia. To avoid stressing the animal to death, they hold one for a week, then rotate it with another one from the population.

globalamphibians.org has a few details about parkelj beyond that.



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Thanks, I'm aware of their rarity and the protection they're under. I'm sure it was a treat to see one though.



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Hi guys,

there is no sense at all in keeping proteus in captivity. Their lethal temperature maximum is around 10-12 C, they can not stand light or even the slightest pollution of water, so there are none at all in Europe (legally) in any private hands or zoos to my knowledge. Generalized it is simply impossible to offer appropriate conditions for them to even survive. Of course one could with a huge amount of technical installations such as A/C, filtering etc. But there wont be any permit for collecting them nor a good chance for them to survive transportation. Compared, a hellbender is a pond newt.

There are some northamerican species looking very similar to proteus and are said by friends to be well for captive maintenance such as Typhlotriton.

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