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Pseudoeurycea belli

This is a discussion on Pseudoeurycea belli within the Plethodontids and Lungless Salamanders (Bolitoglossa, Eurycea, Plethodon, etc.) forums, part of the Species, Genus & Family Discussions category; I have seen Pseudoeurycea belli in books and think they are drop dead gorgeous. Are they ever available?...

Plethodontids and Lungless Salamanders (Bolitoglossa, Eurycea, Plethodon, etc.) The largest, and one of the most diverse groups of salamanders, these salamanders have all evolved to breathe solely through their skin and are found almost exclusively in North America.

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I have seen Pseudoeurycea belli in books and think they are drop dead gorgeous. Are they ever available?



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I don't think any of the Pseudoeurycea are ever available in the US. They are beautiful though.



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Interesting species. I have been to the type locality, Rio Frio de Juarez, Puebla, Mexico many times ( the TL for this species is well published, so I believe it is OK to mention it here). Very high mountain meadow and pine woods, 3000m. This area is often shrouded in clouds and very moist. Beautifull countryside.



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Yes they are beautiful. What is TL?



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Yes they are beautiful. What is TL?
In simple terms.

TL= Type Locality

Type Locality= geographic point/locality from which the Type specimen/s used to describe a species originated from.

Type specimen (usually the holotype)= an individual organism from which a species was described (named or create a taxon)

From there it gets rather complicated as you have holotypes, allotypes, paratypes, lectoypes, syntypes, neotypes, topotypes and several others



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OK cool.



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Thanks for the definitions, Steve. I moved a copy of your post to the Glossary Project part of the forum.



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TL = Total Length. I've never seen anyone abbreviate Type Locality to TL before this thread.



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TL = Total Length. I've never seen anyone abbreviate Type Locality to TL before this thread.
I'd have to agree with John on this one. TL goes along with SVL/SUL = snout-vent length/snout-urostyle length (in frogs).

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TL = Total Length. I've never seen anyone abbreviate Type Locality to TL before this thread.
Well, perhaps you haven't, however, here are some examples to help you out.


http://www.tils-ttr.org/ttr/ttr-2-3.pdf page 4

http://www.bio-nica.info/Biblioteca/...aeEudocima.pdf page 1

http://research.yale.edu/peabody/jls...181-Clench.pdf page 184

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lengenbach_Quarry

http://wcv.nhm-wien.ac.at/coleoptera...r2004/0411.pdf page 8

Or here, if you like formal definitions:
http://www.cactus-art.biz/note-book/...e_locality.htm

I can cite you some books too, such as, A Field Guide to the Butterflies, Alexander B Klotz,

or a more modern text, A Field Guide to the Western Butterflies, J.W. Tilden & Arthur C. Smith,

If you need more let me know.

BTH (By The Way) TL can also mean Total Length, among other things.



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Steve, I haven't looked at all of your examples but a quick glance tells me that none of those refer to salamanders. In salamander circles and peer reviewed publications TL means only one thing.



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Steve, I haven't looked at all of your examples but a quick glance tells me that none of those refer to salamanders. In salamander circles and peer reviewed publications TL means only one thing.
Yeah and one comes from Yale! Boo! Harvard all the way! Click the image to open in full size.



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