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What kind of ensatina is this?

This is a discussion on What kind of ensatina is this? within the Plethodontids and Lungless Salamanders (Bolitoglossa, Eurycea, Plethodon, etc.) forums, part of the Species, Genus & Family Discussions category; I recently went out 'mandering and found this little treasure. Im not qwuite sure of the species since it looks ...

Plethodontids and Lungless Salamanders (Bolitoglossa, Eurycea, Plethodon, etc.) The largest, and one of the most diverse groups of salamanders, these salamanders have all evolved to breathe solely through their skin and are found almost exclusively in North America.

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Default What kind of ensatina is this?

I recently went out 'mandering and found this little treasure. Im not qwuite sure of the species since it looks to be a leucustic. It was found in southern california, can anybody ID this little guy?
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Default Re: What kind of encinitas is this?

Iīd say genus Aneides, but canīt help you on the species.
Have you checked if itīs legal in your state to catch wild salamanders?



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Default Re: What kind of encinitas is this?

Thanks for the reply. I thought it was an Encinitas due to the slight constriction at the base of the tail, but i suppose it could be an Aneides. I have checked and it is fine to collect salamanders (not all but quite a few) So long as you have a fishing license and stay within bag limits.



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Default Re: What kind of encinitas is this?

Ensatina eschscholtzii eschscholtzii - Monterey Ensatina

Californiaherps.com is a nice site to check with range maps for the different forms. You can see what is found in the region that you caught it. The one that I linked has a possible leucistic from San Bernardino County



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Ah, Ensatina, of course, didnīt even consider it, my mind went straight to Aneides. Sorry.



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Default Re: What kind of encinitas is this?

the actual picture on california herps is of the same animal. those were taken right after we found it. I was out with Brian Hinds. We also found a nice arboreal salamander.



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Default Re: What kind of ensatina is this?

Lucky dog! Great looking animal!!!
I have always wanted one.



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Ensatina for sure, probably the nominate form. I have seen hybrids though from around Palomar that were similar.



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Default Re: What kind of ensatina is this?

It is albino so you cant tell what species it is.



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Default Re: What kind of ensatina is this?

It is probably albino. Ensatina eyes are dark so it is hard to see them so if it has reddish eyes it is albino. Could even be a young albino arboreal salamander or black salamander because juveniles look like ensatinas. Its hard to tell what ensatina it is because its albino. Looks like oregonensis.



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