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Neotenic_Jaymes 20th July 2014 15:22

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Look what I found today! I'll be tracking development from here on out!

To anyone with experience out there with this species, I'm considering moving out the male suggesting that he may eat the eggs. The pair is well fed and I've never witnessed any aggression. Obviously Plethodontids are known for eating their clutches of eggs so I'll try my best to not bother the female. Any advice will be well taken. Thanks

Enjoy the pic.

cali2maine 1st August 2014 23:06

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Congrats! Would love to see the babies when they hatch!

taherman 3rd August 2014 04:30

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Awesome! Hope they are fertile for you. I've been getting 1-2 infertile clutches per year out of 2007 babies from Russ that are now monstrous. The males were much younger and I'm really hoping they finally get the job done this year.

Male aeneus never bother the eggs and I leave them together. I think Russ pulled male lugubris sometimes when the females were with eggs. Most egg eating from plethodontids that I have experienced was due to raids by cagemates in the big zoo exhibit (usually ruber), or females eating infertile clutches. Resist the urge to check on them for at least a month, as disturbances can cause problems.

Neotenic_Jaymes 3rd August 2014 04:37

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Originally Posted by taherman (Post 425299)
Awesome! Hope they are fertile for you. I've been getting 1-2 infertile clutches per year out of 2007 babies from Russ that are now monstrous. The males were much younger and I'm really hoping they finally get the job done this year.

Male aeneus never bother the eggs and I leave them together. I think Russ pulled male lugubris sometimes when the females were with eggs. Most egg eating from plethodontids that I have experienced was due to raids by cagemates in the big zoo exhibit (usually ruber), or females eating infertile clutches. Resist the urge to check on them for at least a month, as disturbances can cause problems.

I was thinking the same thing about fertility. I'll know in a few more weeks I suppose. As far as disturbances I keep it minimal. One thing for sure. The female still eats even though she's guarding her eggs. But she never leaves the den.

rust 3rd August 2014 11:53

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Yes, definitely remove the male if you can without disturbing the nest or female.

Neotenic_Jaymes 4th August 2014 07:19

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Originally Posted by rust (Post 425318)
Yes, definitely remove the male if you can without disturbing the nest or female.

Easy enough. The male is easily lured by live food items.

supergrappler 4th August 2014 07:20

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Congratulations James! I wish you luck with this clutch. I'm lookin forward to see the progress.

Neotenic_Jaymes 12th August 2014 06:47

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I actually think I see development. The eggs are still intact and guarded by mother. The set up is basic and simple. Substrate is coconut fiber and organic soil mix. I never kept the substrate very wet just damp and cool. The screen is covered with plastic wrap but not completely covering the whole lid just about 75%-80% of the lid was covered. The open areas are meant let air in and out of the enclosure.

Though I mentioned seeing development the pics here are old and don't show any development. I will post new pictures later on.

otolith 13th August 2014 15:13

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Looking good! Looking forward to seeing development pictures of the eggs.

sde 16th August 2014 18:30

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Looks great! Congrats!

And I have to say, I love that deer antler sitting in there :cool: -Seth

Neotenic_Jaymes 22nd August 2014 04:10

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Development. To those who are following, enjoy the pics.

Neotenic_Jaymes 2nd October 2014 01:06

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I see babies crawling around now. Started hatching this morning. I'm happy as ever.

sde 2nd October 2014 01:21

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Looking good James!

How many eggs/hatchlings do you think there are total now? A dozen maybe?

otolith 2nd October 2014 01:39

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Oh man, that's awesome Jaymes. Looks like the real work is about to begin feeding those tiny things. Looking forward to more pictures as they develop.

Neotenic_Jaymes 2nd October 2014 02:15

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Originally Posted by otolith (Post 429645)
Oh man, that's awesome Jaymes. Looks like the real work is about to begin feeding those tiny things. Looking forward to more pictures as they develop.

Springtails, white worms and fruit flies are my options at the moment.

Neotenic_Jaymes 2nd October 2014 07:56

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Made a short video. Please enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-lt...0zEn0M0LjN3Fng

Neotenic_Jaymes 31st October 2014 05:18

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Made a short film of the babies having one of their 1st meals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lv-c...0zEn0M0LjN3Fng

Neotenic_Jaymes 12th July 2015 22:46

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This female is at it again. She's in position to attach her eggs to the top of this hide. I believe she laid eggs last year in the month of July also.

Neotenic_Jaymes 17th July 2015 00:11

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Here are the eggs. More eggs than last time, can't wait to see how many develop and hatch.

The pictures show the pair that bred for last year. On the left is the male (hence the head and jaw size) and the female is on the right.

Neotenic_Jaymes 29th August 2015 20:23

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Eggs were developing but they took a tumble. Now they're landed and mother is still acting as guardian.


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