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Laoensis juvs and set up

This is a discussion on Laoensis juvs and set up within the Warty Newts (Paramesotriton & Laotriton) & Paddletail Newts (Pachytriton forums, part of the Species, Genus & Family Discussions category; After being contacted by Newquay zoo in Cornwall i decided to let them have the group. They have 2 already ...

Warty Newts (Paramesotriton & Laotriton) & Paddletail Newts (Pachytriton Often sold incorrectly as Japanese fire-bellied newts, these territorial newts are distinct from other genera and very interesting in their own right.

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Old 20th October 2012   #21 (permalink)
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After being contacted by Newquay zoo in Cornwall i decided to let them have the group. They have 2 already and want to set up a breeding programmme for Laoensis.
Two of the keepers came up to my house and were very pleased with the Laoensis.
After keeping them for 12 months they were not far off going aquatic and were just becoming real nice chunky newts.

At least when we go on holiday to Cornwall we can pop in and see how they are doing!



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Such an interesting species. Your juvi looked great in the pics!



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Have you gone to see your newts? I wonder how they are doing now..



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If anyone is still following this, I have successfully begun reintroducing Laoensis to the water from their terrestrial form. They wont go back in at 70f from my observations. at 68 they chilled at the water edge on driftwood. At 66 they have all mostly returned fully to the water or are underwater on the driftwood near the surface.

they also seem to LOVE the RCS that got transferred to their tank when i pulled java moss to set it up.



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It sounds like a seasonal trigger, maybe so they return to the water when dissolved oxygen levels are at their highest?



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It sounds like a seasonal trigger, maybe so they return to the water when dissolved oxygen levels are at their highest?
I believe it is a seasonal trigger as well.

To get them to breed I dropped the water in half and chilled it so a very similar mechanism for them it seems.



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What is/are RCS?



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Red cherry shrimp?



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they also seem to LOVE the RCS that got transferred to their tank when i pulled java moss to set it up.
So they're fast enough to catch cherry shrimp! My newts stopped trying a long time ago.



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i have been trying to get mine to go into the water but he wont. I have not seen laos offered here in a while. Did anybody breed them successfully??



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Wow, such a beautiful species!



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I just got a group of 10 small individuals . How big of a tank do you guys recommend? And what substrate. I was thinking of copying the tub method but don't want there to be any risk of them drowning.



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How does this set up look?
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The set up looks good!

... and new good news:
the F3 generation is just developing.
My F2 Group (1,3, Age of 4 years) has its first fertile eggs!
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Looks like a smaller version of the one i raised all my hatchlings in.


also mind pm'ing me who you bought from?



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those are awesome! anyone in the states breed or sell these?



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hi guys i just saw some of these guys for sale they are still young 4 months old after larval stage wondering what is the going price for these guys thanks josh



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The asking price I am not so sure but they run like 100 dollars which I think is super expensive.. There are some for 150 and they are aquatic already being offered. These guys are really slow growers. In this species does only the male have color on the tail like in other species? I'm trying to sex mines. What does everyone think about the prices?
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i have been trying to get mine to go into the water but he wont. I have not seen laos offered here in a while. Did anybody breed them successfully??
I had great sucess getting my 2012 and 2013 hatchlings into the water by adding in a lot of anubis plants and raising the water on them. that said i have 3 2013's that still refuse to go aquatic, much to my irking.


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The asking price I am not so sure but they run like 100 dollars which I think is super expensive.. There are some for 150 and they are aquatic already being offered. These guys are really slow growers. In this species does only the male have color on the tail like in other species? I'm trying to sex mines. What does everyone think about the prices?
Given the supply of them, Its really a sellers market. All about what the buyer is willing to pay. I know from our discussions, and in the laotriton working group on FB, that there might be fewer than 30 adult animals in the states currently. I know I personally am willing to pay more than double the price i stupidly sold some 2012's at.



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... the first of my F3 breeding reached metamorphosis.
The WC, F1 and F2 breed successful.
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