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Old 19th November 2006   #1 (permalink)
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Hi all! My name is Spyke, and I'm rather new here. I have a total of four salamanders (one Spotted and three Marbled), and I have a few questions. I know in the wild they often share territory...you flip over a log and you find both those too, as well as Northern Slimy Salamanders (at least where I live you do.). Is it a good idea to have them share a tank? Also, the setup I have now is as follows:

About one inch of gravel on the bottom to hold water

Almost three inches of reptile bark and Bed-a-Beast mix

Various pieces of wood for hiding

Water bowl large enough for all four to soak at a time

Moss...lots of moss

English Ivy in the corner

No heat lamp or light or anything...it stays right around 70 degrees F



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Old 20th November 2006   #2 (permalink)
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Two critical factors not mentioned... how large is the tank? And how large are the sals? I'm not opposed to keeping sals together if they come from the same habitat to begin with, but watch closely that all are eating and behaving normally (which in this case probably means hiding all the time).

For wintertime, 70F still seems too hot to me.
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The tank is 18"L X 12"W X 12"D, and the salamanders are rather small. The biggest is about three and a half inches, then two are about two inches and the smalles being almost two inches. All will be moved into a larger tank by the end of next week. The new tank will be 36" X 12" X 12"...
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The new tank will certainly be large enough, but the size difference is significant. A 3.5-inch sal could potentially eat a 1.8-inch sal.

Be sure you have a secure lid. Sals are escape artists.
http://www.caudata.org/cc/articles/escape.shtml
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Okay, I've got everything set up for now. I have a secure lid, and they seem to have adapted well to their new home. However, I still have one more question for you. I'm still somewhat new to keeping sals. I've mainly dealt with turtles, snakes, and lizards, so I don't have much experience with sals. What is the best method of feeding? Putting crickets in the tank with them...moving them to a seperate feeding tank?
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Crickets can be placed in the tank, however observe for aggressive feeders as the others may get minimal food. Feeding by hand is the way to assure how much each animal gets. Earthworms are an ideal source of food for sals...here are a couple of links you may find helpful:
http://www.caudata.org/cc/articles/worms.shtml
http://www.caudata.org/cc/articles/worms2.shtml
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Thanks, guys! I'll post here if I run into any feeding troubles.
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