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T.dobrogicus white patches.

This is a discussion on T.dobrogicus white patches. within the Newt and Salamander Help forums, part of the Beginner Newt, Salamander, Axolotl & Help Topics category; In the past month my dobros have been suffering small changes in their coloration. The two males are showing where ...

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In the past month my dobros have been suffering small changes in their coloration. The two males are showing where their future dots will be and one is already developing his first tiny crest :)
Also their flanks have become brighter, thatīs why at first i thought the female was just changing slightly in colouration as the males...But recently iīve noticed while the males have a brighter line between the belly and the flanks, she has white patches, and also has a white patch on the throat and the cloaca. Itīs definitely not the same as the males, which i assume are just developing their normal subadult coloration. She has had those patches for about 20 days, but the first time they appeared i didnīt think anything could be wrong for what i said previously. Also they practically disappeared until a couple days ago when they were noticiable again. Iīm posting a pic of how the maleīs flanks look for comparison, and a pic of the white patches from 20 days ago.
I fear they could be sores, but ever since they first appeared she has eaten great as always and acts normal.
They seem to vary in intensity (brightness) from time to time...and they only appear where you see them in the pic, not in the back, head, etc)
Any advice :S?

PS: First pic is one male, second picture the female and the other male in the background(brighter line also noticiable)
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Now the smaller male has developed the same white patches(actually the colour is more creamy), one in the throat an a small one newt to his left eye. Can someone please help me a bit with this...? Iīve never dealt with sores(or whatever they are) before and iīm starting to worry...
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When I looked at your photos, I was thinking that these light patches could be some normal skin color. The flanks becoming brighter on the males is normal during breeding condition. I'm not so sure about these irregular patches on the female. But I've never seen anything like it, so it's hard to say if it's something bad or not. It would be unusual for some kind of infection to occur on newts that are otherwise healthy.

Are they eating and behaving normally? Have you tested the water parameters?
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I got it tested by a local petshop about 10 days ago...everything was fine. I have no doubts the light coloration in the male´s flanks is completely normal. Also thought the white/cream patches could skin pigmentation too, like in some kind of partial melanine loose or something....specially since they didn´t seem to spread. The female has had the very same patches for quite some time, the only thing that varies is the intensity of the color. But now that one male has a patch on his throat i´m worried....the patch has erased the normal black and white speckled coloration.
They are all acting normal, eating like rabid pigs and not showing any change in their behaviour. Do sores change the skin texture? Because the female has the same granular texture in the patches than in the rest of the body...and that could be a way to tell.
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After I posted, I went to take care of my newts. When I looked at my marmoratus, I realized that this coloration is normal. Here are photos of my male and female T. marmoratus for comparison. These animals are 100% healthy. I hope this is reassuring
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Oh...well yes that´s the normal coloration, my males have it too, but i don´t think it appears on patches, it´s a pretty much continous line on both sides, and it doesn´t vanish to reappear the next day. The female has a little line like that too (very little though) but then over it there are the patches....i´ll try to get better pics of both animals. It could be just what you say, normal coloration(hope so)....what still keeps me worried is that it´s pretty random, in one side she has two patches and in the other you can see in the picture there are a few more(if it was the normal coloration it should be equally on both sides, right?). Also the patches on the throat are what really freak me out more...
maybe i´m just over-reacting :S
btw very nice animals n_n and thank you for your help too.
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I dont mean to bump so an old thread but Im haveing the same issue with one of my females. A lighter patch of skin in two places and she is a lighter grayish color compared to the others. Not sure whats going on but Im kinda of worried. Did anything ever come of this Azhael?
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