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Not really a sick newt, but did not know where else to post this topic.

I see a number of juvenile Cynops Orientalis that toes have grown together. I wonder where it comes from and whether to avoid it is / was. Precisely because there are a number.

Who can tell me more about it?
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its a mutation dont breed them if you dont want future generations to be like that
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Where have you seen these newts with toes grown together? I can only remember seeing one photo of such a thing, and it was not a Cynops.

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its a mutation dont breed them if you dont want future generations to be like that
How do you know this with certainty? I suspect you are taking a guess based on some other info that you have heard. I wouldn't rush to the assumption that this is genetic.
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Where have you seen these newts with toes grown together? I can only remember seeing one photo of such a thing, and it was not a Cynops.



How do you know this with certainty? I suspect you are taking a guess based on some other info that you have heard. I wouldn't rush to the assumption that this is genetic.
It are my own animals. From the 12 animals 3 have it. It does not look like something from a mutation. It seems more likely that something goes wrong with the development of the toes. It happened with the middle two toes of the forelimbs.

@Red Eft14, from where do you got your information?

Anyone any other idea what to do or where it comes from?
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Can you take pictures? I've never seen or heard of this before.
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Can you take pictures? I've never seen or heard of this before.
I will try this evening, but they are so small
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I´ve seen this once in an orientalis juvenile. At first i thought it was the usual case of two fingers sticking together when they are terrestrial, which is just that...two fingers temporarily sticking together because of surface tension or whatever, but this time they were indeed two fingers fussed together. The juvenile died (it was one of the brown spotted variants, which have never survived under my care :s) and i only noticed it shortly before that. I suspect it was probably a faulty regeneration of the toes which may have been lost when it was a larva. Perhaps that´s what´s going on with yours.
Please do take pictures if possible.
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These two pictures, these are the right foreleg of the animal. Clearly shows that the two middle fingers are one. I'm curious about your findings!!

It seems a coincidence, but I have a juvenile Triturus marmoratus with the same incident.
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