The longest running Amphibian Community on the Internet.

Tags Register FAQ Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Caudata.org Store


New Member

This is a discussion on New Member within the Axolotl General Discussion forums, part of the Axolotls (Ambystoma mexicanum) category; Hey everyone, So I joined this forum because I am planning on getting an axolotl at some point in the ...

Axolotl General Discussion Open axolotl forum: if it doesn't fit in the sub-topics then post it here.

Like Tree1Likes
  • 1 Post By oberynstiles

Reply

 

LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 7th October 2015   #1 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Nationality:
Location: [ Members Only ]
Posts: 12
Gallery Images: 0
Comments: 0
Rep: oberynstiles is an unknown quantity at this point
Default New Member

Hey everyone,
So I joined this forum because I am planning on getting an axolotl at some point in the near future. I am a college student so money is tight, not to mention I have yet to buy a tank or any of the other expensive stuff yet. Anyway, Iíve never had an ax before so I want to learn a lot more about them prior to buying one. I like to learn all about an animal before getting them because I take being a pet owner really seriously. I got a ferret a few months ago and joined a forum dedicated to ferret health and care, and I researched them for about 5 months before buying one. I believe it has made me a much more responsible pet owner and it also has made it a lot easier. The forum I joined is such a great resource so I figured Iíd do the same for an axolotl! After all, nothing beats experience so why not learn from people who have had axolotls and know what theyíre doing right?
As for what I know about Axolotls now, I work at a pet store so I have general knowledge of how tanks work and about cycling and everything. However my pet store doesnít carry axolotls, just fish. From what Iíve been reading online, including this website I know that I will need at least a 10 gallon tank for an adult axolotl. I plan on getting a 55 gallon though because larger tanks are just a lot easier to maintain, and my axolotl would have plenty of room to swim and hide in! Not to mention if I ever decided to get another axolotl I wouldnít have to upgrade my tank. I also know I will need to keep the water cold, between 60-68 degrees Fahrenheit. I will also need to make sure there is no current in the tank because both warm temperatures and moving water stresses them out and can have fatal effects. I have pretty much read everything as far their general needs and requirements go. But there are a few questions Iíd like to have answered before getting my axolotl.

1.) How should I go about cycling my tank for my axolotl? Should I cycle the tank before I get the axolotl or should I do it when I get them? I know at my store we always suggest to people with new tanks to start off with a small amount of fish to get the cycle going. But this is for a fish tank. I was thinking I could possibly get a few feeder fish and cycle my tank for a month or two before getting my axolotl. I would of course remove the fish before putting the axolotl in but would this throw of the nitrogen cycle?
2.) Do I need an aerator for my tank? Iíve read some places that I will need one and some places that I will not. Either way I do plan on having some live plants so I may not even have to worry about thatÖ
3.) For live plants I was thinking of some low light plants, since Axolotls donít like light anyway. I definitely would like to get some moss balls and probably java moss. How do Axolotls do with live plants?
4.) Iím in college and Iím broke. This means I am willing to get my hands dirty for free dťcor in my tank. If I were to include large river rocks, or granite or slate how long should I boil them or whatís the best method of cleaning them? Also is it safe to make my own driftwood? Iíve read that it is safe if I boil out all the tannins but Iíve also heard it is still unsafe even after boiling for a long period of time.
5.) Which filter is the best? I know that canister filters work best because they do not create a current, however a canister is inconvenient for me for two reasons: One, they are pretty expensive. Two, the tank will be in a room with one (possibly two) ferrets. I donít know if you guys are aware of how ferrets are but they GET INTO EVERYTHING. Now, my tank will be up high on a stand with a wire mesh cover so there is no risk of the ferret getting into the tank. However canister filters are on the ground and Iím almost positive if I have one the ferret will get to it some point or another. I was thinking I could get a hang on the back filter instead and place a sponge in front of it to disrupt the flow of the filter so no current will be created. Do you think this would work? If canisters are an absolute necessity I can save up for one and possible make shift a way for it to not be on the floor.

I think thatís all of my questions for now. Hopefully some of you guys can provide answers for me. If you have any information youíd like to share please donít hesitate! Iím here to learn.

Thanks for reading!



oberynstiles is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7th October 2015   #2 (permalink)
Axolotl Enthusiast
 
Skudo09's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Nationality:
Location: [ Members Only ]
Posts: 1,145
Gallery Images: 0
Comments: 0
Rep: Skudo09 has given consistently excellent advice and informationSkudo09 has given consistently excellent advice and informationSkudo09 has given consistently excellent advice and informationSkudo09 has given consistently excellent advice and informationSkudo09 has given consistently excellent advice and information
Default Re: New Member

Quote:
Originally Posted by oberynstiles View Post
Hey everyone,
So I joined this forum because I am planning on getting an axolotl at some point in the near future. I am a college student so money is tight, not to mention I have yet to buy a tank or any of the other expensive stuff yet. Anyway, Iíve never had an ax before so I want to learn a lot more about them prior to buying one. I like to learn all about an animal before getting them because I take being a pet owner really seriously. I got a ferret a few months ago and joined a forum dedicated to ferret health and care, and I researched them for about 5 months before buying one. I believe it has made me a much more responsible pet owner and it also has made it a lot easier. The forum I joined is such a great resource so I figured Iíd do the same for an axolotl! After all, nothing beats experience so why not learn from people who have had axolotls and know what theyíre doing right?
As for what I know about Axolotls now, I work at a pet store so I have general knowledge of how tanks work and about cycling and everything. However my pet store doesnít carry axolotls, just fish. From what Iíve been reading online, including this website I know that I will need at least a 10 gallon tank for an adult axolotl. I plan on getting a 55 gallon though because larger tanks are just a lot easier to maintain, and my axolotl would have plenty of room to swim and hide in! Not to mention if I ever decided to get another axolotl I wouldnít have to upgrade my tank. I also know I will need to keep the water cold, between 60-68 degrees Fahrenheit. I will also need to make sure there is no current in the tank because both warm temperatures and moving water stresses them out and can have fatal effects. I have pretty much read everything as far their general needs and requirements go. But there are a few questions Iíd like to have answered before getting my axolotl.

1.) How should I go about cycling my tank for my axolotl? Should I cycle the tank before I get the axolotl or should I do it when I get them? I know at my store we always suggest to people with new tanks to start off with a small amount of fish to get the cycle going. But this is for a fish tank. I was thinking I could possibly get a few feeder fish and cycle my tank for a month or two before getting my axolotl. I would of course remove the fish before putting the axolotl in but would this throw of the nitrogen cycle?
2.) Do I need an aerator for my tank? Iíve read some places that I will need one and some places that I will not. Either way I do plan on having some live plants so I may not even have to worry about thatÖ
3.) For live plants I was thinking of some low light plants, since Axolotls donít like light anyway. I definitely would like to get some moss balls and probably java moss. How do Axolotls do with live plants?
4.) Iím in college and Iím broke. This means I am willing to get my hands dirty for free dťcor in my tank. If I were to include large river rocks, or granite or slate how long should I boil them or whatís the best method of cleaning them? Also is it safe to make my own driftwood? Iíve read that it is safe if I boil out all the tannins but Iíve also heard it is still unsafe even after boiling for a long period of time.
5.) Which filter is the best? I know that canister filters work best because they do not create a current, however a canister is inconvenient for me for two reasons: One, they are pretty expensive. Two, the tank will be in a room with one (possibly two) ferrets. I donít know if you guys are aware of how ferrets are but they GET INTO EVERYTHING. Now, my tank will be up high on a stand with a wire mesh cover so there is no risk of the ferret getting into the tank. However canister filters are on the ground and Iím almost positive if I have one the ferret will get to it some point or another. I was thinking I could get a hang on the back filter instead and place a sponge in front of it to disrupt the flow of the filter so no current will be created. Do you think this would work? If canisters are an absolute necessity I can save up for one and possible make shift a way for it to not be on the floor.

I think thatís all of my questions for now. Hopefully some of you guys can provide answers for me. If you have any information youíd like to share please donít hesitate! Iím here to learn.

Thanks for reading!

Welcome to the forum :). You will find loads of information here so it would be worth reading through threads here. I will try to answer your questions as best as possible.

1. I am a huge advocate for using a fishless cycling method and cycling the tank before getting axolotls. I find it is much easier and this method does not unnecessarily expose living animals to potentially harmful levels of ammonia or nitrite during the cycling process. Here is a website with loads of info on how to go about a fishless cycling method. The (almost) Complete Guide and FAQ to Fishless Cycling - Aquarium Advice - Aquarium Forum Community

2. An aerator is optional.

3. Live plants are fine and good for water quality maintenance as well as pleasing to the eye :). You may find your axolotl might dig live plants up occasionally but you can just re-plant them if they do.

4. You will want to be able to identify the type of rocks you wish to use to be sure they are safe with axolotls. The link here may help you with your question Axolotl Sanctuary. I have no experience with making my own driftwood.

5. Hang on filters are fine as long as you can disperse the flow so they don't create too much current. Some do have settings that give you some control on how fast the outflow is.

And it is great that you are taking the time to research first before bringing home your axolot :). Have a look at www.axolotl.org. There is loads of info there as well :)



__________________
"Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's soul remains unwakened" - Anatole France
Skudo09 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7th October 2015   #3 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Nationality:
Location: [ Members Only ]
Posts: 12
Gallery Images: 0
Comments: 0
Rep: oberynstiles is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: New Member

Thanks for the links! Those are some awesome resources! I had no idea there was such a thing as fishless cycling, I am going to go to work today and tell my coworkers about it as well! Thanks!

I've been using the axolotl website, it's actually how I found this forum haha. It has some great information.



oberynstiles is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

LinkBack
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads

Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Hello new member catgardener Introductions Area 1 29th October 2012 19:30
New member suexxxxx Introductions Area 2 8th January 2010 21:55
New member d wasp Introductions Area 3 24th November 2009 20:58
New member tejc86 Introductions Area 1 24th October 2009 00:26
New member~ Woozel Introductions Area 3 20th November 2008 04:58


All times are GMT. The time now is 01:22.