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This is a discussion on Salmon pellets within the Axolotl General Discussion forums, part of the Axolotls (Ambystoma mexicanum) category; I just bought my partner an axolotl for Christmas, they are her favorite amphibian. We are both new to them, ...

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I just bought my partner an axolotl for Christmas, they are her favorite amphibian. We are both new to them, I have several amphibians myself, but no salamanders or newts. My question is about feeding them a sinking pellet food. My girl is a vegetarian and will not want to be feeding him dead or live animals. I will be able to do that myself sometimes, but for the most part he will probably be on a diet of pellet food, so which is the best? How often and how much do I feed? And is this OK to be feeding him mostly on this food?



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Quality pellets are a good food, but i would be wary of using them as an staple.
Thereīs something that i donīt fully understand, and i hope you donīt mind me saying, but why is it a problem for her to offer animals, and not animal-derived products? Iīm only saying this cause the pellets are actually based solely on animal matter. They are not much different than say, using frozen bloodworms, except for they are processed.
I have vegetarian and vegan friends and i know that some are very strict, thatīs why iīm raising this point.

As for quantity, as much as they can eat in 15 min is ok (never leave left-overs, they will foul the water). Frwquency depends on the state of the animal, but for a healthy adut, every two-three days is fine.



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Honestly I think she doesn't realize that the pellets are made of animal products, and even if she did she could still shake some into the water without touching them. She has been a vegetarian since she was a little girl and is really grossed out by feeder animals. But I will be able to go over and feed him some frozen bloodworms (or anything else) from time to time, so how often if she is feeding him just the pellets should I do so? And also, what brand do you use?



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No offense, but it seems kind of inappropriate to risk providing poor nutrition to an animal based on your own beliefs. To properly care for an amphibian like an axolotl, you need to adhere to a diet that is going to provide them with the nutrients they need. Seems foolish to be giving someone an axolotl when you know they won't provide the necessary care.



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Although i kind of agree, in all fairness, he IS asking if it is ok, so he is obviously worried about the animal.
Bad news is that unless you can feed it at least once a week (twice preferably) earthworms, bloodworms, or other apropriate foods yourself, the main diet is going to be pellets.
I donīt keep axolotls myself, but i do use pellets, nevertheless, i would wait until one of the axolotl specialists chimes in. Maybe pellets can be an staple, although i honestly donīt consider them to be.

If you could persuade her (donīt get me wrong, i really respect vegetarians, but itīs worth a shot) to use frozen bloodworms or something of the sort, there wouldnīt be any problem with the diet (so long as you still provide other foods)



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Once the axie is an adult you can feed it a couple of earthworms a couple of times a week and that should be ok. But i do think its slightly irresponsible having a carnivorous animal if youre not willing to feed it the food it actually requires to live. No offence just maybe a veggie pet would have been more appropriate. Mel



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Axo's can live very well on a diet of (good quality) pallets, however it's more natural for them to eat living food. My axo's are most fed on earthworms, but when it's not available, they are given sturgeonpallets. Probably the axo's has to get used to eat pallets



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A diet of only pellets is perfectly OK, provided that they are a good quality carnivore pellet that is fresh (you can keep them frozen for better retention of nutrients). University axolotl colonies use salmon pellets exclusively, and the animals are fine and breed. No need to feel guilty about it. In the US, there are 3 sources of salmon pellets that I know of:
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Feed as much as the axie will eat in about 5-10 minutes, and remove all uneaten food right away. If you are new to aquariums, do some research on tank cycling and water quality. Good luck!



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Well everyone does not seem to understand, I am going to feed the animal live food myself, and if twice a week is the amount that's needed, then that is how often I will do it. This is why I made the post in the first place, I am not doing anything Irresponsible. I will see this animal very often and don't mind at all doing the live feeding myself. When she becomes more accustomed to it she will probably do it herself, she is just a bit squeamish. So please don't tell me I am irresponsible I do everything I can and have to for my pets and this new animal is no exception.



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Hi no offence intended, apologies if offence was caused. I was just thinkin if you were not there to feed the animal maybe another choice of animal would be better suited. Jennewt says pellets are fine which is great. I would still feed worms when you can for variety. Mel



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Pellets are fine as a staple but some axies are really finicky and would not touch pellets unless they are absolutely starving. The best way to overcome this is to gradually introduce them to the pellets by waving them in front of their faces and/or dropping the pellets around their faces. Once they accept the pellets, you can place them in a feeding dish embedded in the substrate. It makes for easier cleaning of any leftovers.



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So I bought some pellets, but am having a hard time getting him to eat them. I drop them right in front of his face, but he rarely eats them, and they dissolve quickly on the floor of tank. Any suggestions?



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Some axies just won't accept them readily. Persistence and consistency is the key here.

If you are using a feeding dish, you can encourage them to consume the pellets by mixing them with other food types they are known to consume and greedily do so.
For eg. you may place 1 or 2 pellets amongt a clump of blackworms, bloodworms or even a tangle of earthworms. The associated wriggly movement and scent emiited can sometimes entice an unsuspecting axie to consume the pellet hidden amongst it.

Also try feeding with pair of feeding forceps. Wave the pellet in front of the axie's face.

Lastly, feed them around dawn or dusk (or even late night) as those hours are when they are most actively feeding.



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Ok I will try those things thanks!



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So I bought some pellets, but am having a hard time getting him to eat them. I drop them right in front of his face, but he rarely eats them, and they dissolve quickly on the floor of tank. Any suggestions?
Are they salmon pellets? Salmon pellets don't dissolve quickly. It will take a little time to switch over to salmon pellets but it is worth the effort.



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No they aren't, they are something else the man at the pet store recomended me, I believe they are for shrimp. I ordered salmon pellets online they wont be here for awhile, for now I am feeding him live bloodworms and this other food. He loves the bloodworms, the other stuff not so much. When the pellets get here I will try to introduce them with the bloodworms.



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