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Well I've picked up a nice example of a colour form know as "Olive" commonly sold around the Brisbane area and possibly the rest of Australia. This individual is not as dark as some of the others I've seen but possesses all of the usual characteristics. Olive colouration, spotting and the presence of iridophores (most obvious around the eyes and on the tail). The eyes are red so maybe some sort of albino?

I was wondering if this would be classed as a "Copper" in Europe and if not does anybody know what to class it as? I've seen a photo of a Copper and it appeared to possess iridophores, at least around the eyes, but I was wondering if they appeared so prominently on the tail as shown on the individual below.

I have another individual which I've been informed is a copper but it does not appear to possess iridophores so I'm a little confused?


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I've never seen a coloration like that in perth before, the majority of axies out my way are goldens, wild-types and melanoids.

I've yet to find any leucistics either.
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Oooooh, that's a prettylotl :-D
I only read mention of "copper" axies yesterday, so can't offer any comparison, but if they are the same, at least I'll know what a copper looks like now
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So. Beautiful.

I've seen so few examples of these colours on the forum that I wouldn't know if the Olives are the same as the Coppers - the only copper pic I recall seeing did look a bit darker than your gorgeous new axie.

Jealous!
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AWWWWW!!! How cute/pretty!!! I haven't seen that coloration before! He/She looks like a sunset! ^-^
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Hi Chris,

I must admit I don't think I've seen any Leucistics around Brisbane either. We have plenty of Goldens, Albinos a few strange ones like the one above and lots of black ones with gold spots. We do get quite a few Melanoids here but they never look very well. They always have very messed up gills and quite misformed feet. I'm always on the look out for a nice healthy looking one. Wildtypes also seem quite rare and I think I've only ever seen two. Its interesting what's common in some place and rare in others. I guess its all up to what the local breeders are churning out?

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Here's a link to a thread with the Coppers in.

Edit: Just noticed you've posted in that thread anyway Neil Oh well, useful for anyone who hasn't seen it already!
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Hi Neil,
What a beautiful looking axie!
Where did you manage to pick this one up from?
Good healthy axies are hard to find in Brisbane.
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Thanks Mewsie for posting the link. It's the copper in the top photo, from what I can see has the shiny ring on it's eye. While the one futher down in that post is my other one which is certainly lacking iridophores?

Shells,
Surprisingly enough the one above was from the Petbarn at Morayfield. I find most axies around here are usually reasonably healthy and just need a bit of TLC and a good feed. Saying that I have seen some very neglected individuals.


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Ooooh, soooo pretty!
Random question: can we exchange across the border next breeding season? Or does quarantine prohibit it (just like it prohibits nearly everything else!)
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I know axolotls are banned in NT and I'm pretty sure you can't transport them to Tasmania or Western Australia but other than that I don't think there are any restrictions.


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Default Re: Australian "Olive"

Ahh didn't know Pet Barn Morayfield stocked them! I work at Pet Barn Bald Hills and thankfully we don't have them.

I tell you what you'll find a hard time finding anything other than Melanoid or a Copper. The Aquarium has a few healthy looking Coppers and Pet Super Store Stafford also has some really healthy Axies. Both places take VERY good care of their Axies but unfortunetly the breeders in Sydney (where all pet shop Axolotls are sourced from the Aquarium Industry headquarters) don't look after them.
I got Sunny from The Pet Super Store and was very happy with his health. Just recently went in to order a very special custom made cabinet and they had a beautiful Copper female.
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I've never seen a copper down here (Sydney), and my LFS gets most through (though I got mine from the breeder).
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@Blaze, I think that's the problem I had with Marilyn, the Aquarium I got her from at Annerely takes really good care of all their stock (for want of a better word) unfortunately the breeders didn't and she ended up with a severe calcium deficiency
Im currently trying to source an Axie breeder in Brisbane so I can get a baby and rasie it myself.
Failing that I may just have to look around for another beauty, will keep these two place's in mind. Being on the Southside I have tended to only look around that area.
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hey shells, fyi, the aquarium shop at capalaba is where i have bought my axies from, and theyre all gorgeous, i have a wildtype, melanoid and leucistic, very temperamental fish i must say ;D but so calm and relaxed
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Not sure about the classification of the color but so pretty!!!!

I saw one like this yesterday, I wanted to buy it but I couldn't. However they seem pretty common around where I live, as many of the ones I see in pet shops look like this. In face these and wild types are probably the most common in my area... by comparison I have only ever seen 2 leucistic (one of which I own myself)
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I was speaking to the man who sells axolotls at the Sunday market and he said that all of his axolotls come from a breeder/breeders in Melbourne! I always assumed that they were bred around Brisbane.That's quite a distance to transport them and then only sell them for $15. Well you learn something new every day.


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WOW really?!
What Sunday markets is this at? Are they healthy looking axies?

Thanks Sonic, might check that out too...
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Hi Shells,

It's the Sunday market at Caboolture. Might be a bit of a trek if you live on the southside. They usually have about 10-12 for sale but if you don't get there early they often sell out. Selling axies that cheap is both a good and bad thing! There is quite often a crowd around their tank and I guess at that price I'm sure there are plenty of impulse buys so not a good thing plus the stress of being out in the bright light and transportation etc. On the other hand if I see a nicely coloured individual I can get it at a bargain price.

Their axies are usually in pretty good conditon but there is usually at least one in the tank with a leg missing or something similar. If you do get one please quarantine it before introducing it to any others as who know what it might have picked up.


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Great thanks Neil.
I do live on the Southside so may make a morning at the markets out of it!
Is a bit worrisome about the impluse buyers.
Definitely will be quarantining if I do manage to find one. Thanks for the advice.
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