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First of all I'd like to apologise to the people that posted on my previous thread, I didn't mean to ignore you but there were some family matters that made me forget about my post all together.

Back to the axies, I had some issues, as some of you will know, with fungus and such, all of which have been sorted with fridging and some good old salt baths, so thank you to everybody who advised me on that, you may well have saved the lives of 2 baby axies.

The only remaining problem is that since I've taken them out of the fridge (they are still being kept in a tub with 100% water changes of fresh dechlorinated aged water every day) I've noticed that both if them spend most of their time floating and lopsided. Is it normal to see behavioural changes after periods of fridging or illness? Pictures to follow

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first is of Dash, taken from the top.
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I seem to remember reading that very young axolotls don't take to fridging too well...

I'm not sure, it's just something I remember reading somewhere. Perhaps someone else with more experience could help with this?



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Yes I have heard that as well but I really didn't feel I had any other options. They had fungus and because of the heat wave I couldn't properly control the temperature any other way without it fluctuating a lot. The fridge was on its lowest power setting to make sure they didn't freeze.



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Glad to hear they are better now :)

Young axies do spend a lot of time hanging out at the top of the tank. The lopsided thing might mean they aren't eating enough. How much and how often are you feeding them?



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I'm feeding them a small amount 3 to 4 times a day. They don't look thin, but then I can't really see properly as I can't see them from the top. I'm just worried that maybe they can't get to the bottom.



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Quick update: Dash is now on the floor of the tank, still lopsided when he swims, but not floating. Lottie is still floating and lopsided .



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Many reasons for floating and lobsideness(iphone found no replacement for my wondeful word i made up apparently)

Not enough food- you may not be feeding them enough, not because of you but because of the fridging. At their age they should never be fridged, even if temperature is an issue. You are very lucky they made it because i had a 0% survival rate with mine in thefridge, i know they were ill in thefirst place so that may have factored into it but fact is they just cant take the cold temperature and the fact that they need to eat so often its a worst case scenerio. I had one i left out during our heat wave because i knew he wouldnt make it in the fridge, he made it through the heatwave fine though. Little guy has since passed on but he was a trooper.

Sorry i rant and get off topic. But they may still not have their full appetite back yet. Try feeding them more per serving.

Also i read not aging your water enough can cause this, i dont know how accurate this is but i had a huge problem with babies floating on their side and this is one thing i came up with in my franctic search for answers, though i did age mine at least 24hours, i dont know. Something about there still being air bubbles in the water and they swallow the air bubble and they will float till it passes, which food helps get them to pass it.

Inhaling air can do this. Do your lotls have their back legs in yet? Its a funny situation(i think) because lotls lungs arent fully developed until their back legs come in, in which they tend to "accidently" inhale air and then not know how to exhale.. They eventually figure it out, thats my theory on why babies float so much..

Anyways the solutions to all of the above is fresh dechlorinated aged water 100% daily water change in tubs and in the tubs only put enough water to cover the lotl completely. It helps keep them less stressed by the fact that they cant reach the bottom.



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I will admit i was very concerned about putting them in the fridge, but i thought it was the better of 2 evils, the temperature the water was at outside of the fridge would have helped the fungus along rather that stall it.

The aging the water thing may well have something to do with it, i do age it but only for about 12-18 hours. The oxygen thing is another worry, I've been trying to get more oxygen in there recently, and it seems to be working for Dash but not Lottie.

They do have back legs but they are still very small.

Thank you, I've been doing most of that but i'll have to start giving them less water, as they have quite a lot more than you say would be beneficial.



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