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SnakeDancer 12th May 2010 18:44

FS: Italian Alpine Newts (juvies)
 
Available offspring from my small breeding group of Italian Alpine newts who laid eggs back in December. The oldest babies have recently metamorphosed and are ready to go to new homes. Have got about 12 ready to go right now, with more on the way.

These are Triturus/Ichthyosaura alpestris apuanus, aquatic year-round and arguably the most beautiful Alpine subspecies. They are still tiny juvies, not yet sexable, but starting to get their amazing colors. I can take a guess in that the males probably show more color already, but cannot guarantee the sexes at this point. (I received their parents at about this same age and took a chance on a group of 3, who turned out to be a very prolific reverse trio. :) )

I can try taking some pics if desired, but my camera isn't that great and I don't know how well they will show up.

They are feeding enthusiastically on chopped blackworms and mosquito larvae.

Price is $35 each plus shipping (overnight shipping with tracking number and live-arrival guarantee, $50 flat rate throughout the Continental United States)

Will consider 1-for-1 trades for the following:

Triturus/Lissotriton vulgaris - Common European smooth newt
Tylototriton verrucosus - Himalayan newt




monkeyfrogman28 12th May 2010 23:39

Re: FS: Italian Alpine Newts (juvies)
 
Where are you located? ? ?

SnakeDancer 13th May 2010 05:53

Re: FS: Italian Alpine Newts (juvies)
 
I am in Ohio, and I go to the Columbus herp show usually every month. Would be happy to bring along some newts for anyone in the area, and spare them the stress of shipping. I *might* make the June Hamburg (PA) show this time, but that's still questionable.

SnakeDancer 13th May 2010 23:37

Re: FS: Italian Alpine Newts (juvies)
 
To the person who sent me a private message interested in 4 of these guys ... I seem to have lost your message, it disappeared out of my inbox after I read it. Not sure how I managed that. Anyway, please re-send....

Joe Blecha 18th May 2010 14:06

Re: FS: Italian Alpine Newts (juvies)
 
I was the one interested in 4 but it's a little out of my price range right now since I just bought books for the summer semester of college... bummer!

Cheers,
-Joe-

FRANCOIS 5th June 2010 03:06

Re: FS: Italian Alpine Newts (juvies)
 
Hello, do you still have some?

warrior 5th June 2010 20:27

Re: FS: Italian Alpine Newts (juvies)
 
Are you serious about shipping?$50 is alot to pay shipping for,sounds like someone is over charging on shipping.Next day delivery is somewhere between $25 to $30.

uwe 6th June 2010 18:33

Re: FS: Italian Alpine Newts (juvies)
 
Hi,

these prices are outrages.

How is the status at the moment to send animals from EU to the US ate the moment?

If its ok to send, I would like to provide animals to the US-enthusiasts for 10 US$ each (plus shipping, app. 20$ EU--->US).

Uwe

Jennewt 7th June 2010 03:22

Re: FS: Italian Alpine Newts (juvies)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by uwe (Post 235466)
Hi,

these prices are outrages.

How is the status at the moment to send animals from EU to the US ate the moment?

If its ok to send, I would like to provide animals to the US-enthusiasts for 10 US$ each (plus shipping, app. 20$ EU--->US).

Uwe

Prices depend on supply and demand. There have been very few breeders offering any recently in the US. I don't think the price is so outrageous.

To ship legally from EU to US requires a lot of paperwork, inspections, etc. All the expenses would probably drive the price of the imported ones from $10 to >$35 anyway. Nice of you to offer, though. It's a pity that international shipping is so difficult.

michael 7th June 2010 19:31

Re: FS: Italian Alpine Newts (juvies)
 
This is an advertisement for this persons newts. The price is o.k. They even offer to trade. Advertisements are monitored and approved by moderators. How does an advertisement get this far off track?

uwe 8th June 2010 08:19

Re: FS: Italian Alpine Newts (juvies)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by michael (Post 235657)
This is an advertisement for this persons newts. The price is o.k. They even offer to trade. Advertisements are monitored and approved by moderators. How does an advertisement get this far off track?

Michael, this is no off track. I should be allowed to discuss prices in the subforum trade. This is the freedon, which should be allowed.

Uwe

Mark 8th June 2010 10:09

Re: FS: Italian Alpine Newts (juvies)
 
Michael/Uwe, the comment about the shipping charge was originally made by a fellow American so perhaps itís valid. I donít see there being any harm in discussing shipping charges as the costs are relatively fixed. Discussing animal prices is dangerous, especially between continents. Whilst I. apuanus is very cheap to buy cb in the EU that doesnít mean it is in the US.

The US opinion is that the animals are priced fairly and therefore requires no further analysis. If the original poster feels these comments are damaging their sales opportunities please inform me and Iíll get them edited out.

michael 8th June 2010 17:27

Re: FS: Italian Alpine Newts (juvies)
 
Shipping costs are odd. If you want to guarantee next day before noon delivery 50.00 might be appropriate. If one were to take Uwe up on his offer of importing his 10.00 salamanders the license and import fees would be a minimum 250.00 to do it legally. If USFW requires a broker for the deal that would boost it up another 300.00 to 500.00. That's why most salamander imports are done through reptile companies as add ons or by questionable means.

Mac Myers 8th June 2010 18:26

Re: FS: Italian Alpine Newts (juvies)
 
Michael Speaks the Truth.

FRANCOIS 9th June 2010 02:06

Re: FS: Italian Alpine Newts (juvies)
 
I would rather pay $50 for shipping and have my animals arrive safe and "happy" than $25 to find a salamander boxed with zero insulation and as a result DOA.... if you want an example of horrible shipping, buy from reptilecity..... I am talking from experience.

uwe 13th June 2010 16:58

Re: FS: Italian Alpine Newts (juvies)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by michael (Post 235811)
Shipping costs are odd. If you want to guarantee next day before noon delivery 50.00 might be appropriate. If one were to take Uwe up on his offer of importing his 10.00 salamanders the license and import fees would be a minimum 250.00 to do it legally. If USFW requires a broker for the deal that would boost it up another 300.00 to 500.00. That's why most salamander imports are done through reptile companies as add ons or by questionable means.

Hi Michael,

If I understand right, there is a charge of at least $250 up to $750 on an import of animals with a value of about $150?

This is ridicolous and is described in one word: protectionism.

No wonder many US herpers just ask for mailing the animals without this highwaymanship.
But since 2001 its not advisable.

(BTW maybe this should be in an other thread)

Uwe

Jennewt 13th June 2010 19:38

Re: FS: Italian Alpine Newts (juvies)
 
I agree this should be in another thread, but if I were to move the posts, none of them would make any sense out of context. As Mark said, if SnakeDancer wants the posts that are irrelevant removed from the ad, we will delete them.

dano 24th June 2010 16:47

Re: FS: Italian Alpine Newts (juvies)
 
Snakedancer, Could you contact me at ogrizekdan@gmail.com

dano 27th June 2010 18:15

Re: FS: Italian Alpine Newts (juvies)
 
Snake dancer, If you have any left I would be interested in a small gr. You can contact me at ogrizekdan@gmail.com I can pick up.


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