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Underground Reptiles and Tylototriton shanjing

This is a discussion on Underground Reptiles and Tylototriton shanjing within the Testimonials forums, part of the Advertisements for Newts & Salamanders category; Underground Reptiles are currently offering T. shanjing. I purchased several and they arrived in terrible shape. I would not reccommend ...

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Old 12th August 2014   #1 (permalink)
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Underground Reptiles are currently offering T. shanjing. I purchased several and they arrived in terrible shape. I would not reccommend purchasing any of these.



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have you told them of the poor condition of the newts that you got?



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Were these wild caught animals?



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Were these wild caught animals?
Yeah, their ads on King Snake all said 'Field Collected and Doing Great!'



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Yes, I believe they were wild caught. I also informed them of the poor condition of the animals (one dead on arrival, 2 more dead the next day) and they offered me credit on my next order for the 1 DOA animal. There will not be a next order for me.



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They are wild caughts. They always need fattening. Are they eating worms for you?



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Were these wild caught animals?
Yes, it says they were "field collected" on the ad.

Anyways, can you (the OP) please post some pictures or go into a bit more detail? I was thinking of picking up a pair from them. I noticed one photo in the ad, it looked like one newt had the shine but it could have been wet or just a bad photo.



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We don't condone the sale of wc (wild caught) animals on this site. Most likely they were "field collected" in huge numbers, helping to decimate the site of origin, and so few make it successfully after that that it's tantamount to wholesale slaughter, as your unfortunate experience shows. If you are patient, you can eventually get tylototritons cb (captive bred), and they will be parasite free and healthy. The awful conditions wc animals suffer is a crime.
We do support field collection on your own for personal animals. Taking only a few for your own use is the best way to get wc animals.



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Did anybody else buy any and if so how are they doing?



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Did anybody else buy any and if so how are they doing?
I was going to buy a pair with my next pay check but after talking to Leonard I am no longer going to be doing that. I hope he doesn't mind me sharing but he told me in an email that he had ordered 10. Out of the 10, one was dead on arrival, he lost two more a day after arrival, and many appear to have "the shine". He says they're all in poor health and that underground reptiles will only give him a credit for the one DOA. Sad...



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Did anybody else buy any and if so how are they doing?
I bought a pair, they are not doing well.

Underground reptiles likes to stay on the gray line with wild caught animals in my experience. Other purchases from them have always arrived looking like garbage.



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I have had some problems with recent w.c. animals I purchased. Some of the animals were great and some turned out to be not so great. By getting these w.c. animals in my house I feel that I put my entire collection at risk.



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I purchased WC T.kweichowensis from Underground years ago when they first started showing up with some regularity on the US market. If I remember correctly one or two died but the others prospered and lived for years, even breeding on three occasions. More recently, around three years ago, I handpicked a group from Underground at the Daytona expo in August. All looked plump and healthy. I took every precaution to keep them cool on the ride home as well as subsequent quarantine. Out of that group all were dead in two weeks. If sick, dehydrated, sore covered animals are shipped then that is inexcusable. If otherwise healthy looking animals are shipped then one must accept that acclimating any wc salamander is a risk.



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Has anyone bought CB animals from them? I was thinking about a pair of marms, but I don't want to spend a lot on stuff that end up being in really bad condition. When I asked about how they were housing them they replied: "We provide them an aquatic area with spots for which they can climb out of the water if they chose."



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Don't give them your money Aaron, take a look at their youtube channel, if that's what they want people to see, I dread to think what happens when there's no camera running.



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Aaron, springs coming, you should be able to source cb phibs from private breeders soon.



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I would definitely buy some from a private breeder on here. If you're happy to wait for them to grow to adults you could even buy some eggs in the spring, they can become adults within a year. The general opinion of this company seems to be that their animals, or amphibians at least, are kept in poor condition and subsequently arrive to their new homes in poor condition. I have also seen their YouTube videos and I am not impressed either.

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I have never dealt with this business nor have I an axe to grind with them, this link may be of interest to you Bad Guy Underground Reptiles Stay away!! - FaunaClassifieds



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