Paramesotriton laoensis breeding

paul · Nov 24, 2006

Continuation of the tread:
http://www.caudata.org/forum/messages/13/70092.html?1164350685

My female laying eggs:

Here you see how the cloaca "works", laying eggs deep between two leaves.

Eight eggs in one series:

(one week old)

Paul

andy · Nov 24, 2006

Wow, Paul...what a great sight to see. Thanks for sharing. Now if only mine would do the same thing!

jef · Nov 25, 2006

congratulations paul!
my female is looking gravid for a month or so, but still no eggs.

henk · Nov 25, 2006

Well well this is looking very good. All my animals now develop a nice white tail ... It's nice to se but ... don't know wether I need to laugh or cry ???

Nice to see that these Paramesotriton also lay there eggs in row like we are sued to see from other paramesotritons (so they read the good book). Much success in rearing them Paul...

TJ · Nov 26, 2006

"All" your animals, Henk? Females too?

henk · Nov 27, 2006

All my animals indeed , but if they contain females that's aonther question ... think all are males (there's one doubtfull case), so that's why ...

ralf · Nov 28, 2006

Yet another good reason to establish a registry for this species.

paul · Nov 28, 2006

I agree Ralf!
We urgently need a registry for laoensis, for breeding groups and changing information - as much as possible!
And we need a lot of breeding, that we never will have mass imports of this species.

Paul

henk · Nov 28, 2006

I'm willing to register them into the H. dunni setup software as I demonstrated in Gersfeld 2005. But I do not have sufficient time to establish the same efforts 'literature study, breeding data gathering) as for my H. dunni with this species. So if I can help with the register of this species, I am open to a joint collaboration with someone else ... and just for the good order my communication channel to actualise the studbook is email.
Also i someone else wants to cover it all , then I'll be happy to join in as a regular member.

paul · Nov 29, 2006

Jep Henk, that sounds good!
Perhaps we can do it together?

Paul

sergé · Nov 29, 2006

So far Henk, there is of course very little literature available on this species!
That's another reason why a register is very important.
But don't forget that it is also important to show to the outside world that you take the keeping of this species in captivity serious. There is a global program starting where zoos are going to start captive breeding programs for endangered species. although P. laoensis is perhaps not threatened in nature, it's distribution area is very small and a few big exports can for sure damage populations. It is therefor important to show that we as keepers take it serious and try to establish a stud book for this species.

henk · Nov 29, 2006

Can not agree more Sergé, so I am willing to take part and help, but can certainly now, not carry the whole load.

paul · Nov 30, 2006

Hi!
Here the eggs now are 2,5 weeks:

Paul

TJ · Nov 30, 2006

Glorious!

And what interesting coloration they start out with!

My 2 (3?) females are getting acquainted with the new plants in their aquarium...and hopefully scouting out oviposition sites...

TJ · Dec 6, 2006

Any update for us on those eggs, Paul?

paul · Dec 7, 2006

@Tim, nothing new until now!
16 to 18 °C and the eggs develope very slow. Nearly four weeks until now and I think it will take one or two weeks until the first larvae slip.
But delicate to fungus! Lost some fertile eggs!

I think, other do well, but I am waiting

.

Paul

paul · Dec 9, 2006

Here a new photo:

3,5 weeks

Paul

paul · Dec 13, 2006

Dear friends!

In the meantime I got E-mail from several people to build up this Register, and we already did it.
Have a look at www.ag-urodela.de
Here "Molchregister"
There you can see, that Gustavo Espallargas now is the new godfather of a P.laoensis and a P.deloustali Register.

So, if you want to give some support, please write to Gustavo.

Paul

TJ · Dec 13, 2006

Thanks for the great photo Paul.

I will be happy to register my 4 P. laoensis if what is envisaged is an international register and not just a European one

Good work!

paul · Dec 20, 2006

Jep ....

Five and a half week!
I brought the temperature from 16°c up to 20 °C.
Yesterday the first Larva slipped.

In the meantime I have six.
What can I say?
They look like larvae

- 14 mm!
Paul

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