Happy Valentine's Day !

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I just couldn't get any sleep at this very passed night... so I decided to take a drawing ink to my restless left hand and to do something special for you all. I really want to thank all of you for the existence of this very unique and useful site of amphibian enthusiasts. I have definitely enjoyed to visit here more and more often every month. This site has once again inspired my long lost enthusiasm of my amphibian interest and lifted it to the totally new level. Today, it is greater than ever before, and I feel great confidence with the pledge of mine where I once made a promise to be the ambassador of all the amphibians in the world, and fight for their existence and work for their well-being. This is not the only site which has affected in me, but still one important one...

Because above mentioned work is sometimes really lonely business, it wouldn't be the same without you. You are making this site really enjoyable for all of us. There is plenty of different type of fellows and personalities in this forum, of course, but at least one thing is certainly sure, I think. We are all connected each other with our amphibian related desire and love. Those owned for every single amphibian species in the world, at least I wish and hope so, really...
 
Oh... Please forgive my poor English. I have been awake all night long, and just a little bit tired and fuzzy thinking now...

PS. And I am truly sorry that the picture is not representing any Caudates at this time but I promise to get you one to the next time... ;)

(Message edited by Aki_Suzuki on February 14, 2006)
 
Aki, you are a very talented artist! Thanks for sharing this with us!
 
Thats a great piece of art to do late at night when you're tired. I really like it. Well done and thank you for it.
 
Really really good ! What a talent !

Here 2 drawings I made recently. But I promise soon I'll make some newts and salamanders drawings !
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Amazing drawings by both of you! I have been drawing for a long time too, but nearly stopped doing it ever since I finished school. It's a very relaxing and rewarding hobby though, keep up the good work!
 
Thank you all for your nice and encouraging feedback. I was almost sure that there will be more enthusiast who also like to draw and paint things on the piece of paper or on the board. Marie-Sophie, you seems to be like a multi-talented person who just don't stop surprising us, do you?
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Your art is very accurate and neat, and I like the way you draw, but there is still one thing in your first drawing that I would like you to observe for the more truthful and authentic image. Maybe you have already noticed that by yourself but in a case you don't, and do not mind to have my humble tip of advise and opinion regarding of your work, given only with my best and innocent intentions, I can give you such after your personal permission, of course.

However, keep it still up and going Marie! And don't hesitate to put here more of your drawings for us. I like those and I definitely would like to see more of your drawings. Following some ones progress on his/her drawing skills from the next work to another, is also very interesting thing to do for a person interested in same passions...


(Message edited by Aki_Suzuki on February 16, 2006)
 
Dear Aki,

Thank you very very much for your comments ! You want more surprises ? Look what instrument I play ! ;)
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Its a german baroque lute (24 strings).

Well, about drawings, of course I would like to know what you want to say ! Your technique is far best than mine and it really seems that you are a real specialist. We can really see in your drawing some "dynamism", "motion", and "deep". That's something I m'not able to do. I make few drawings as a hobby every 4 months, or something like that, and I know that of course I need to improve a lot. So don't hesitate to tell me all what you want, I will be very pleased and honored to have your comments, advices and opinions !

I'll search for others drawings I made, and you could do the same for share your great talent with us !

Thanks again for your great piece of art !
 
Ok Marie-Sophie. Here it comes but please read it just keeping in mind all the time, this is not from professional or specialist either, but from hobbyist like you.
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Maybe you have already noticed that those front legs (front limbs?) of the Tiger is way too short and narrow, in such a realistic picture as it presents. Did you ran out of paper when you worked with Tigers legs or why they are so tiny? Moreover, the paws are too minor and small as well, when comparing those with the legs and whole other part of the big cat too. As you certainly be aware as a scientific journalist of biological issues (as I have understood), real Tiger has a strikingly huge paws and in comparison with a rest of the body, and more muscular legs than your Tiger now owns.

The lack of right and correct dimensions and measurements are not a big deal when drawing caricatures or fantasy or unrealistic images at all, (like e.g. that picture I posted which is almost like a gag) and sometimes it can be even intentionally made for a special effect or over-reacted caricature, but when aiming to the art of realistic looking image, it is very important factor in any of such pictures. I wouldn't said anything at all, unless your art piece wouldn't been so realistic and well succeeded from the rest of its other elements. So, if you are capable to draw such a realistic way you have now done, you should definitely check those measurements right as well. ;)

Best thing with caricatures and fantasy I have noticed, indeed, is that artist doesn't have to follow any settled roles of art, because in caricature and in fantasy, things can be as much way of our comprehension as the image actually represents. The limit then is just an artists imagination...

So, my comment wasn't meant for discouraging Marie-Sophie down, and I really want you to understand this (don't you ever understand my intentions otherwise, when I just want to give my helping hand). On the contrary, it was meant to encourage you and others to draw even more balanced and well adjusted and of course, even more truthful and authentic images next time in a case, where aiming to reach authentic and realistic images. I really don't want to sound like I am giving you some advises, but I just wanted you to know that your Tiger won't keep itself standing with those front legs and paws any longer, if you don't make them thicker and stronger, and of course much longer as well.
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As I previously said, You already seem to be capable of drawing animal faces almost a photo-realistic way. Now it is time to look after right dimensions, measurements, perspectives and truthful distances of different body parts from each other too. In fact, those are usually learned in opposite order and I just wandering and have no clue what so ever, how come you have learned to draw such a realistic way and missed those dimension and measurement checkings at the same time?

You were wrong about that I would be professional. as a matter of fact, I don't. It is still my hobby as well and, in fact, I don't draw so often either. It just takes proper mood and inspiration which I usually don't have enough to get ever started. It is true that one can learn to draw only just by doing it. And for the continuous progress, one should do it a lot, like you said. I don't do much of drawings either although I should, but I am trying to do something about to fix that lack every year. I should draw more often and regularly as I do right now. It is the famous new year promise of mine for every single new year... "Draw more."... And I newer did anyway...
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We will see, what happens with this ongoing year, since I will try to post some new Caudates art work here as well in a near future... ;)

So did this help you even minor way? It is very common phenomenon that artists (writers as well) sometimes get "blind" with their own work and accomplishments. Then it could be valuable to get some other opinions from others, those are looking the same work in totally different way and probably can see some weaknesses and potential errors you haven't observed and noticed yet. ;)
 
Oh... you already posted more pictures while I was on the process with my answer. And now it seems even more clear to me how you failed with those Tigers legs. I just understood the reason, I think. You have drawn and worked too much with only heads of animals. That explains everything, indeed...
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Thank you Marie for those. They helped a lot with my mystery...

You seem to like cats a lot, right? But as we are dealing with amphibian related forum and web site, I would like to see amphibians images too. In a case of Caudata.org, I would definitely prefer some Caudata-drawings from the members of the forum, all of you just capable of keeping pencil right side up in your hand... I will try to do so too. And Marie-Sophie is trying as well, right?
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Edit: Oh nice... we have plenty of those snow leopards (and cute kittens too) in our zoo named "Korkeasaari" in Helsinki. They are breeding those in here and I have understood that Korkeasaari is the leading zoo what comes to the snow leopard breeding program in the world... Nice...
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(Message edited by Aki_Suzuki on February 16, 2006)
 
<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1>Aki Suzuki wrote on Thursday, 16 February, 2006 - 12:39 :</font>

"Maybe you have already noticed that those front legs (front limbs?) of the Tiger is way too short and narrow, in such a realistic picture as it presents. Did you ran out of paper when you worked with Tigers legs or why they are so tiny? Moreover, the paws are too minor and small as well, when comparing those with the legs and whole other part of the big cat too. As you certainly be aware as a scientific journalist of biological issues (as I have understood), real Tiger has a strikingly huge paws and in comparison with a rest of the body, and more muscular legs than your Tiger now owns. "<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>

The reason is I worked from a photography, and I reproduced exactly the same proportions as I saw. The problem is in this picture, you had a lot of perspective effects, and I was not able to draw in the same way. Believe me, I tried all the ways possible for draw the right proportions, but every time I made the front legs bigger, it looked ”wrong”, probably because I had the photograph as reference. That’s why I decided to stop the drawing there before it looks catastrophical…

<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1>Aki Suzuki wrote on Thursday, 16 February, 2006 - 12:39 :</font>

"The lack of right and correct dimensions and measurements are not a big deal when drawing caricatures or fantasy or unrealistic images at all, (like e.g. that picture I posted which is almost like a gag) and sometimes it can be even intentionally made for a special effect or over-reacted caricature, but when aiming to the art of realistic looking image, it is very important factor in any of such pictures. I wouldn't said anything at all, unless your art piece wouldn't been so realistic and well succeeded from the rest of its other elements. So, if you are capable to draw such a realistic way you have now done, you should definitely check those measurements right as well. ;) "<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>
Of course, I have to work a lot about proportions, measurments and perspectives, I’m very bad in this field. That’s also why I most of the time I don’t make caricatures, because for that you need to have memorized all about proportions, for be free to draw as you want. I’m not yet able to do that. Well, that’s not true, because I can make good caricatures of rodents, but rodents only ! (with a small and plump body, that’s not so difficult…).

<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1>Aki Suzuki wrote on Thursday, 16 February, 2006 - 12:39 :</font>

"As I previously said, You already seem to be capable of drawing animal faces almost a photo-realistic way. Now it is time to look after right dimensions, measurements, perspectives and truthful distances of different body parts from each other too. In fact, those are usually learned in opposite order and I just wandering and have no clue what so ever, how come you have learned to draw such a realistic way and missed those dimension and measurement checkings at the same time? "<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>
I just learned by myself, with absolutely no technic, and I always made drawings about what I wanted… And I’m also very much interested about portraits (heads only), but not because it’s easier. It’s just I always want to ”catch” the strictly necessary about the expression of the animal or the feelings it inspires you. For instance, I made also a lot of drawings of reptiles’ eyes, in a kind of scientific style, and I really enjoyed it. I’m more into detail than into ”global attitude”. But I know now it’s time to draw also bodies… and to draw them in the right way… And I think that newts and salamanders can be very good for me to start to draw bodies better.


<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1>Aki Suzuki wrote on Thursday, 16 February, 2006 - 12:39 :</font>

"You were wrong about that I would be professional. as a matter of fact, I don't. It is still my hobby as well and, in fact, I don't draw so often either. It just takes proper mood and inspiration which I usually don't have enough to get ever started. It is true that one can learn to draw only just by doing it. And for the continuous progress, one should do it a lot, like you said. I don't do much of drawings either although I should, but I am trying to do something about to fix that lack every year. I should draw more often and regularly as I do right now. It is the famous new year promise of mine for every single new year... "Draw more."... And I newer did anyway... We will see, what happens with this ongoing year, since I will try to post some new Caudates art work here as well in a near future... ;) "<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>
Yep, good idea, let’s do that ! I’ve started a new thread, (subject : ”CaudatART”) : just post some newts and salamaders drawings !

<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1>Aki Suzuki wrote on Thursday, 16 February, 2006 - 12:39 :</font>

"So did this help you even minor way? It is very common phenomenon that artists (writers as well) sometimes get "blind" with their own work and accomplishments. Then it could be valuable to get some other opinions from others, those are looking the same work in totally different way and probably can see some weaknesses and potential errors you haven't observed and noticed yet. ;)"<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>
Of course, it helped me but I already knew what was wrong in my drawings… But thanks a lot for you very good analysis and advises. And I think you are far far better than me, and I really would love to see some of your others drawings. If they are not ”urodelistic” and if this forum is not the right place for that, you can send them to my e-mail address, or show m a link. I would really like that !
 
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