Newts/salamanders

carl · Jan 7, 2005

is there any newt/salamander either aquatic or land that is easy to look after and eats just worms pellets and liver but not an axolotl because i already have one and before you all say no i am keeping them in seperate tanks

jarid · Jan 7, 2005

Pleurodeles would be a good choice IMO.

jenny · Jan 7, 2005

pleurodeles need a big tank carl. unless you can provide that

in wigan your only choice really is a fire belly newt or a fire salamander. pemb pets have one fire belly newt and exotica can get them in.

or reptile room which is near blackpool has marbled newts, paddle tailed and spotted ones but they are getting more in on 18th jan.

did you get a lecy axolotl from exotica?

carl · Jan 10, 2005

i didnt get one from exotica but i thought they were nice i just dont want to put one with my wildtype because he is massize how big a tank would you need because i am using my 3 foot tank and i only have a tank about 1 and a half foot long thanx for the replys i will have a look around

jim · Jan 10, 2005

I'm new to this site and am looking for information and sites concerning sirens. My 4th grade class and I (I'm supposed to be the teacher but some days I wonder) have two. One 18.5 in. monster in a 20 gal. tank and another smaller and thinner (apprx. 16-17 in) in a 10 gal. Both are almost 5 years old and seem to be in good health. Any of you siren fans have any help to offer?

dot · Jan 10, 2005

Hi and welcome to c.org!

I have three lesser sirens, 2.1 that I got for Christmas.

I found a lot of really good information from Ed Kowalski's Caresheet:
http://www.caudata.org/cc/species/Siren/S_intermedia.shtml

Also, you may want to check out the Common Name forum and look at the "Large Aquatic Salamanders" section.

Good luck!

william · Jan 11, 2005

Jenny, do you have the website of reptile room? if not do you know if they still have marbled newts and their price?

jenny · Jan 11, 2005

they dont have a website i dont think.

they are on yell.com though.

cant remember how much they were but the most expensive newt they had was 12.99 but dont know if it was the marbled or spotted etc.

otherwise faunology.com sell marbled newts at about £12 but also its 19£ delivery.

jim · Jan 11, 2005

Dot, thanks for the info and welcome. Ed's care sheet is very good. My class and I hope to breed them. If successful, we'll keep folks posted.

william · Jan 12, 2005

okay thankx

william · Jan 15, 2005

i've just phoned the reptile room up and they say they've run out of pygmy nets but they still have fire salamanders, "chinese spotted newts" what ever they are and paddletails. they also say that they've got an ambystoma opacum.

which would be easier to keep ambystoma opacum or marms?

they also said that they are getting more spieces in soon, tirturus alpestris were definitely on the list!

(Message edited by will_j on January 15, 2005)

jenny · Jan 15, 2005

wow tirturus alpestris are pretty

what is a marm.

if you look on for sale bit then there are paddletail newts for sale they are £6 each.

they are completely terrestrial though - im not sure if i want an aquatic one or not. but then it would be nice to not have to do more water changes.

but im also not sure if i want a salamander...

choices choices!!

william · Jan 15, 2005

i've got a paddletail already, marms are triturus marmoratus, sorry

jarid · Jan 15, 2005

Yeah, paddletails are completely aquatic. Maybe you confused terrestrial with territorial somewhere along the line?

jenny · Jan 16, 2005

sorry, i meant there are banded newts for sale (and that theyre terrestrial)

(Message edited by jennyg on January 16, 2005)

jesper · Jan 16, 2005

Please don't give advise when you don't know(at least add that you are not sure) and please use the scientifical names instead of the english/american trivial names.

Sorry about that.

jenny · Jan 16, 2005

i apologise if i made a mistake.(which you would know when you go into for sale section) we cant all be as perfect as you.

and i dont complain that you use the latin names (when i dont know what they are. if i want to use the common name i will. is there anywhere in this forum saying do not use common names?)

a lot of you are all up youselves and think you know everything about everything and never make mistakes with anything!

jarid · Jan 16, 2005

It's not a matter of using latin names to look more intelligent. It's that vernacular names are a pain most of the time. If you look online at some suppliers or in pet stores you will see that many of them will have completely different common names for the same animals, and a good deal of the time, those names are the "proper" common name of a completely different animal. So using latin names makes everything a little easier to understand and information/conversations can progress more smoothly without the added confusion. In the future, if there is a latin name you do not know, just click on the species link on CC. That is how I learned all the latin names in the beginning.

alan · Jan 16, 2005

IMHO, all of the comments made to Jenny in this thread are valid, but Michael has a point - it's the way in which they were made, not the content.

C'mon guys, lighten up and stop jumping down other people's throats. It's not just this thread. There's not such a nice atmosphere around these forums as there was. Be nice. Help people. Don't turn the caudata.org forums into kingsnake!

jesper · Jan 16, 2005

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1.I think it is arrogant to use english/american trivial names, this is supposed to be an international forum so please be humble enough to learn the latin names. I have to speak a non-native language(english) to participate in this forum. The first thing I did when I decided to take part in an international forum was to learn the latin names, no one is interested in learning trivial names in a non-native language when there's rational names in latin accepted throughout the world. When an english/american participant comes here and take it for granted to use trivial names I feel that it is as disrespectful as you do when I start writing in Swedish in this forum.

2. There's a line when it comes to how much bad advise you can give without someone pointing that out. Especially when a person is constantly having a bad attitude about being wrong. Maybe you should tone down the advice part Jenny?

Alan - Actually I think it is the bad advice if anything that would turn us into Kingsnake-type site.

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