P.guanxiensis problem

I've kept my male guanxiensis with my female P.fuzhongensis for about a week now, only to find on saturday night my poor old male belly up in the tank.
I'd noticed a bit of aggression from my female towards him earlier in the week but I put it down to food being around.
I remembered a posting somewhere about somebody who had found their newt belly up but taken it out and left it it a tub for a while. Well I decided to try this and left the body in a tub overnight. The poor old guy was very limp, bloated and extremley flexable, aswell as having glassy eyes. I was very shocked to find him up and alive the next morning after showing signs of being completly dead to the world the previous night.

Anyway, bottom line is, I gave him a quick examination the moment I found him (to see if there where any wounds) and I found nothing, but now he is alive again there has been bleeding coming from his front right leg which I touhgt was broken originally as he wasn't moving it. I am pretty sure this damage is caused by the female's agression (clamping on to his leg) and now although he is using it (not broken, most likely just very sore) he bleeding won't stop. It is not a dramatic amount, but enough to get me concerned. He is very weak at the moment and although I have offers from a friend to help heal him, I think the journey would be too much stress for him and he might not make it, I am not willing to lose him that way.
I'll try calling the vet in a while to see if they have anyhting to help him, but I just don't know how to stop the bleeding. It's been going now for a few days and it is most likely making him weaker and weaker. He has lost colour and won't eat alot but the fact he is eating is very good.
Anyone have any suggestions? he is being kept terrestrial and will from now on, on paper towel substrate and being fed waxworms,earthworms and crickets....

Well he has taken a turn for the worst, he's now bleeding quite heavily from both front legs and also coughing up blood.
I really don't know what to do. I called the vets and my local pet stores but none have any vets who specialise in amphibians or gave me any helpful advice.
If the worst comes to the worst, I would rather put this animal to sleep than let him suffer anymore. He looks like he is in quite a lot of pain with his legs, and the blood loss must be affecting him too. He won't eat anything now (since he started coughing up blood) so I may have to force feed him in a few days...
I thought it may be a liver problem or some kind of internal organ failure/damage. Obviously something must have been damaged when he died, I just don't know what.
If I do have to put him out of his misery, what is the safest and nicest way possible? I really don't want to lose him but if it is the best thing for the animal, then I'll let him go. =( I'd rather see him not suffer.

Sounds like internal bleeding, poor guy. However, it may be a cut in his mouth, perhaps from being wrenched off the female...?
I am not sure about the quickest way of putting them down, but I should think that your vet would be able to give him an injection to finish him off quickly...
Don't give up hope yet...paramesotriton are very tough.
If it is internal bleeding, I wonder how the haemorrhaging started...keep an eye on him and keep him quiet and dark.
Good luck
Chris

Hi Chris
The male never attacked the female or was agressive to her in anyway, even when there was lots/litte food about. He is very placid in nature which is unusual for paramesotriton, or so I've read.
He spends most of his time lying still wrapping his tail around him.
I would guess the internal bleeding was due to when he died or half drowned. I'm no expert obviously but maybe when his vital organs kickstarted again it was something to do with that? Or it may have been certain chemical levels had built up quickly and this has caused the bleeding. He wouldn't be so bad if only I could get the legs to stop bleeding, he is so weak he can hardly move.
I do hope he lives upto his reputation of being tough, it will be a huge shame to lose such a lovely newt. Another fact affecting his health may be his weight, he is quite fat (his previous owners fed him alot i would guess), often described as a football with short stumpy legs and a huge broad head. He's also very warty. Not had him long but I have got quite attached.
Prehaps someone can give me advice on how to help him a bit? Or something to help stop or lessen the bleeding...?

Well very sad to say the little guy passed away lastnight. I went to check on him and had no breathing or movement what so ever.
It is always sad to lose an animal but I guess it happens.

Hi Aimee,
There is an article on euthanasia on caudata culture.
One of the possible explanations for the apparent limp/dead animal that "recovers" is that extreme exertion or other source of oxygen debt can result in a limp or apparently deceased animal that subsequently recovers mobility. Amphibians can tolerate exposure to anoxic conditions that would kill a mammal or bird and recover.

The description that the newt was bloated when you found him limp would make me think that there is something else is going on here other than a fight between the newts but that would need a work-up by a vet to actually determine the real cause and effect.

If he was fat when you got him as opposed to bloated then you will not have to try feeding the newt in the immediate future as he will have ample fat pads. I would recommend against it as you do not know the origin of the blood coming from the mouth (whether it is originating from the mouth, throat and/or stomach) and force feeding may increase the irritation/damage.

Good luck,
Ed