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Paramesotriton hongkongensis

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nelson

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Some photos...

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Hope you like them ;)
 
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ian

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Great photo,s Nelson but if those are tropical cichlids i see in the background then the temps will be to high for the newt.
 
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nelson

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Hi Ian...

I´ve no heating in the aquarium...
You´re when you say that it's an cichlid...an african cichlid...
It's just temporary...'til i found a new home to him...

Thanks for the comments,

Regards,

Nelson
 
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jennifer

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One other comment on the tank... It contains shells, and the large rock looks like some kind of coral or limestone. These things will increase the pH of the water. Be sure to test the water and make sure it does not become too alkaline for the newt. Also, if you move the newt into fresh water, do it very gradually, as the pH of the tank water may be very different from your source water, and a sudden change is not good. I hope you find her a nice non-cichlid home.
 
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nelson

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Hi Jennifer...

I think i didn´t made my point
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The tank is a cold water tank...no heating...
And will still be like this...
The cichlid is the intruder here...is the fish who's not in proper conditions...
The newt have all the conditions they need...not the fish...and as soon as possible the fish will come out off the tank...not the newts...this tank is their definitive home...

So...what do you think about the tank setup to the newts?
Is the tank OK to them?
It's a 65G tank...
The measures are 47x16x21(in inches)...
I've two newts (not completely sure about the species...i think i've two different species
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My final objective is to have 4 newts of the same species (if i can find them in Portugal...not easy
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) or to pairs (one of each species that i've own now...if they're really to different species)...

By the way...
Let me get some opinions about my newts species's...

NEWT 1:
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NEWT 2:
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BOTH:
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In my opinion the NEWT 1 is a Paramesotriton deloustali or a Paramesotriton fuzhongensis...

The NEWT 2 i think is a Paramesotriton fuzhongensis or a Paramesotriton hongkongensis ...

Hope you can help me because i'm getting crazy trying to have some sure about my "boys" species...
After i'm sure about species i'll try to discover my newts sex...

Thanks to all...
 
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mark

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Well, I'm no expert but I like a good quiz.

I would guess that newt 1 is Paramesotriton hongkongensis because of the cranial ridges and smoothish skin. The belly pattern is not that of P.deloustali.

Newt 2 I would guess at Paramesotriton fuzhongensis because of the smaller cranial ridges, orange dorsal stripe and warty skin.
 
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juraj

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Hi Nelson,
it`s just matter of taste but I`d remove those marine things from the tank. I`ts a freshwater setup. Both animals look like honkongensis females. Very nice shots.
cheers
j.
 
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paul

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Hi Nelson!
<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1>Quoting Nelson Oliveira on Wednesday 30 August 2006 - 10:04 (#POST104804):</font>

In my opinion the NEWT 1 is a Paramesotriton deloustali or a Paramesotriton fuzhongensis...<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>
It isn't a deloustali
<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1>Quoting Nelson Oliveira on Wednesday 30 August 2006 - 10:04 (#POST104804):</font>

The NEWT 2 i think is a Paramesotriton fuzhongensis or a Paramesotriton hongkongensis ...<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>
I don't think, that it is a hongkongensis!

Paul
 
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nelson

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Hi Paul...

So...
In your opinion...

NEWT1 = Paramesotriton fuzhongensis
NEWT2 = Paramesotriton hongkongensis

Can you explain me please in what you base your opinion?
Thanks a lot...

Is that right?

(Message edited by nelson_oliveira on August 30, 2006)
 
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nelson

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Some more pics that i hope can help us to identify my "pets"...

NEWTS
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CLOACAS
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AQUA (i just added some floating roots)
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Waiting for more opinions...

Thanks in advance...
 
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chris

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I would say both are hongkongensis. Fuzhongensis' skin is very warty - each gland is quite pointed - not just granulated. These animals skins are very smoothg for Paramesotriton, which along with the cranial ridges and to an extent the ventral characteristics suggest hongkongensis. They can be quite variable in colouration, so the animal with black markoings on the dorsum (newt 2) is probably just an abnormal variation.
The setup looks good, I would not worry about the limestoney stuff unless the animals appear stressed (restlessness, cessation of feeding, swimming frantically around the surface) - sorry to contradict you Jen. Of course you could err on the side of caution and replace the rocks if you haver a source of less alkaline ones. Pices of flat slate or other such rocks piled to produced shelves, overhangs, and crevices are enjoyed by Paramesotriton.

Chris
 
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virginie

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Wahooo, it's the first time I see this topic
Although I can't help you for the identification I have to say that you made really really nice pics.
 
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emelie

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the picture with the mouth open was soo cute! It looks like the newt is stretching out its tongue at the camera!
 

wouter

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For the confusion; could't the second animal be a P. chinensis? I don't really see a cranial ridge in that on, and the shape of the body, the spots on the flank and the coloured dorsal line remind me of P. chinensis.
 
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