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dawn
14th April 2005, 17:14
I'll start by saying Hello to everyone as I am new to this forum :-)

I bought a newt almost a week ago and he was labeled in the shop as a 'Giant Fire Newt' but after looking at pics I'm thinking he is some kind of warty newt, probably a fuzhong. I'll post some pics ASAP but right now I would just like to confirm what the shop owner told me about keeping it. I have a small aquarium (approx 25L) with two goldfish but nowhere for the newt to come out of the water. Does that sound OK? Should I get something to float on the surface for him? There's not a lot of room for that. He has plenty hiding places and makes good use of them!

Like I said, I'll post some pics soon and hopefully someone can confirm the species for me. I'd be grateful for any advice I can get for now though.

Thanks!

william
14th April 2005, 17:21
first of all welcome! http://www.caudata.org/forum/clipart/hat.gif.

second, don't keep it with goldfish, they can be quite aggressive towards the newts, and they produce far to much ammonia.
third it will need somewhere to climb out onto.

benjamin
14th April 2005, 17:30
depending on the size of the goldfish there may be some feasting involved. The newt will eat small goldfish and large goldfish could injure or kill the newt. If that doesn't happen, goldfish release a lot of ammonia into the water and can stand higher amounts of it then newts. So not really the best conditions for your newt. Other wise sounds like a good set up, I think that you should have a small land space for the newt though. Fuzhongs don't visit land much but mine like to spend about 5% of their time on it.

chris
14th April 2005, 18:58
A piece of floating cork-bark will suffice. I would also suggest removing the goldfish
chris

dawn
14th April 2005, 22:21
I appreciate the advice guys but it looks like I might have asked for it a little late http://www.caudata.org/forum/clipart/sad.gif
My Newt is gone!! And I dont mean I found him floating, I mean his is missing! I don't think the goldfish could have eaten him so fast I didnt even see a dead body so I can only assume he has escaped (although I dont know how!)

How long can the wee guy survive out of the water?

Dawn

jeff
14th April 2005, 22:32
It really depends on the conditions of the room he's in. Anywhere between a few hours up to a few days. Look for him in dark places. Also, I read somewhere on this forum that it's a good idea to lay down a wet towel, as they'll search for moist places. Good Luck finding him.

(Message edited by tmarmoratus on April 14, 2005)

dawn
15th April 2005, 00:23
Found him! I really hope someone is reading this soon because I need advice and fast. He's barely alive! Ive put him in some shallow water is there anything else I can do for him?

Please, anyone, HELP!!

TJ
15th April 2005, 08:47
All I can suggest is to remove with water the dust he's collected and to not put him in water that's so deep that he could drown in his current condition.

If it were mine, I'd rehydrate him in a small but secure container with Ringer's solution (plain old water should be OK in your case) about a centimeter deep. I'd place the newt on top of some java moss with its head mostly out of the water.

I also advise against keeping a newt with goldfish or in a tank without a very secure lid.

Good luck with him http://www.caudata.org/forum/clipart/wink.gif

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(Message edited by TJ on April 15, 2005)

jennifer
15th April 2005, 14:59
Dawn, if you haven't already read these, you'll find some helpful information:
http://www.caudata.org/cc/faq/faq.shtml
http://www.caudata.org/cc/articles/articles.shtml

dawn
17th April 2005, 23:24
Thanks everyone, all very helpful. I got another tank so that I could keep the goldfish and the newt apart (although there didnt seem to be any problems with fighting or trying to eat each other). Unfortunately he died before I could move him http://www.caudata.org/forum/clipart/sad.gif

Thanks again for all your help, I may return in the future with pics of a new newt or I may just stick to keeping fish - they're much easier to stop escaping http://www.caudata.org/forum/clipart/happy.gif

dawn