Some pipa pipa questions

Hi,
For the last two years I have been trying to keep Pipa pipa. Both last year and the year before I have had the same problem. After about a week or two with both pairs on both years the pipa pipa would stop eating the front and hind legs would swell and death followed soon after. The pairs looked all right when I got them other than being thin and of course somewhat stressed being WC animals. I of course researched their requirements before I bought them so as far as I can tell everything was in order: the habitat, temps, water was clean and mildly acidic, etc. Food was mosquito fish and locally collected earthworms, both of which I feed to other frogs without problems so little or no chance of poisoning there. Some sort of infection is all I would venture to guess but that is why I am asking here. This year I would like to try pipa pipa again but I would first like to find out if there is something I was doing wrong or if I was just unlucky.

Thank you for your help.

Seth,
There are multiple possible causes but given that it affected both animals at about the same time, I would suspect a infectious agent such as a bacterial or viral infection.
You would need a necropsy to be absolutely sure as to the cause of death.

Ed

Hello,
perhaps the following link can be helpfull: http://pipidae.net/faq_illness.php

Red leg?

Try a post at the Pipidae board, too.

Bye Martin

Hi, I'm Giuseppe Ripepi from Italy and this is my first post
I have many Pipa pipa (5 years that I have this species) at home and I looked that this specie can have some problems with the moviment of the water, they want not it, can death and they can swell (same to infection).
Do you supply only invertebrats to your Pipa ? I supply sometimes some red fish (carassius), it is very good food.
Excuse me for my english, if you have some questions write me.

Hi I have found the ADF's to be quite hardy. I originally kept mine with goldfish in a cold water tank without problem. I've moved house a number of times and the frogs tolerated each change to water conditions. I lost one after she got abcesses and infection (this one had also recovered from a ballon frog infection). I think i am about to lose another but I noticed its jaw has become mishapen sugesting a tumour again.
I suggest you use mineral water with a neutral ph as it may be the water your using that kills them. If your using a large tank this isn't possible but using mineral water seems to cure baloon frog. The point i am trying to make is they seem to be fairly hardy and tolerate most conditions. You could feed them daphnia as live food as feeding bloodworm seems to cause problems

Hello Paul,
ADCFs (and ACFs) and bloodworms: http://pipidae.net/faq_feeding.php
http://pipidae.net/faq_illness.php

ADCFs are tropical animals. So a water temperature of 24°C is recommend.
Goldfish are fresh water.
So you can not keep them together.

To be sure that you are not keeping ACFs (Xenopus) insteat of ADCFs you can click here: http://pipidae.net/species_determining_adcfacf.php

Bye Martin

(Message edited by MartinTruckenbrodt on November 27, 2006)