Holiday in Spain, Malaga, who can help me with places to find caudates?

22 oktober I'm going to Nerja, Malaga, Spain. I'm looking for people who can give me some information where I can find animals in that area. I you have information for me, Pleas PM or email me, thanks!

No spanish People around?

I don't even need locations, you can also make me happy with some tips for finding them (I'm no expert with southern-european species)

please reply in this message, send me a PM or email me Rob@keulers.com

Thank you very much

I´m Spanish but I´m not from Malaga, I´m from Cadiz that´s very near. I can help you in how to find different species of amphibian and some reptiles. This is my msn: ismael_lamas_90@hotmail.com

Thanks!

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You are specifically told in the rules in this part of the forum not to ask for this information. I'm getting sick of this. For every person who is a genuine field herper there's someone who field herps and collects (Illegally!!! There is no other type of collection of Salamandra and Triturus in western continental Europe) at the same time. I have personal knowledge of many such people and my tolerance for it reached an end several months ago, and I have zero tolerance for people asking specific locality data here.

And before anyone wonders, yes I've been to Gersfeld enough times to see that many of the so-called elite hobbyists are low-life illegal collectors of protected salamanders that they re-sell at exhorbitant prices. They know who they are and many use this site, unfortunately.

rob_keulers said:

22 oktober I'm going to Nerja, Malaga, Spain. I'm looking for people who can give me some information where I can find animals in that area. I you have information for me, Pleas PM or email me, thanks!

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Maybe you only want to take some photos, but the risks are too high. I recommend Spanish people not to answer in these cases and never to give concretly localitations.

Sorry, it will not happen again. I thought that he only wanted to see newts, not to catch them

Great!

What A nice replies here.

"I thought that he only wanted to see newts, not to catch them"
Now it looks like I'm some kind of criminal. I just wanted to go out herping in Spain, I didn't want to catch anything. Our of love for the animals I wanted to see them in their natural habitat, not to catch them, on the contrary!

I am one of the two webmasters of www.caudata.nl, the dutch website about newts. I tell people the same, don't steal from the wild, But before I say that I try to find out what his purposes are. I don't judge by one simple post. I only do that after multiple questionable posts.

In the Netherlands I am volunteer for RAVON, a club who monitors ampibians in the Netherlands.... Besides that I keep several species of newts from all over the world. Cynops ensicauda popei,Cynops pyrrogaster sayasamae, Tylototriton verrucosus (light and dark form), Tylototriton shanjing, Tylototriton kweichowensis, Triturus Marmoratus and all of them, with no exception are captive bred. I dislike wildcaught animals, so I don't want to have them, and I don't have them.

Who of you can say the same?

Thanks but no thanks for your kind replies

We have nothing against you, as I said maybe just want to make some pictures. But it is a precautionary measure, not what you take it amiss. Many people, from both outside and here, has been dedicated capture tritons and salamanders to sell.

I wish you a happy new year

It really is nothing against you Rob....i was accused of the same thing for posting pics of salamandra... I understand ppl here is very concerned, as concerned as you and i are, but since we don´t know each other personally, it´s a very sensible decission to be cautious. Also this forum has definite rules about giving such information so we should respect that.

Rob, perhaps I haven´t explained myself very well. I wanted to say that I offered to help you because I supposed that you only wanted to see newts, but I never wanted to say that you really wanted to catch them.

Happy new year!