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Azhael
31st October 2007, 10:53
I went on a 5 days trip with college to study invertebrates and cryptogams, to the north of spain. In one of the free times we had a couple mates and i went out for some salamandra hunting. We found 6 animals in about an hour, 5 adults and 1 juvenile. I had never seen bernardezi before so i was extremely excited. I was surprised to see the adults were larger than i expected, bigger then the fastuosa i had seen. Talking about fastuosa, it was curious that some of the bernardezis looked very much like fastuosa, at first i was really confused. Anyway, we had a great time (specially me xD) catching these beauties, and meassuring them. We also had the chance to observe some L.helveticus larvae in a pond during the trip.

Azhael
31st October 2007, 10:57
And more :P

John
14th November 2007, 20:34
Uwe please refer to Locality Information Policy (http://www.caudata.org/forum/showthread.php?t=48337) here in the Field Herping Accounts area - they state that you are not to ask so specifically for locations.

Hi Azhael,

nice pictures!

Is this in the city area of Oviedo?

See you

Uwe

uwe
2nd December 2007, 21:15
Hi John,

I have read the instructions.

My question was formed quite general. More or less everyone in Europe knows where this animals are living. Not to mention that one varity is named after the valley they are fond in.

You are right to protect the exact locations, but field herpetology lives from location.

See you

Uwe

John
2nd December 2007, 21:57
Hello Uwe,

You are entitled to your opinion and I think you are entitled to ask someone about locations. However if you must ask locality questions then do so via private message or, failing that, in the private/donor forums.

Best wishes,

-John

Hi John,

I have read the instructions.

My question was formed quite general. More or less everyone in Europe knows where this animals are living. Not to mention that one varity is named after the valley they are fond in.

You are right to protect the exact locations, but field herpetology lives from location.

See you

Uwe

Jennewt
2nd December 2007, 23:19
I deleted the two posts mentioning locality information. If this information violates the policy, it shouldn't be left to public view.

dane_zu
3rd December 2007, 02:21
cool pics, its always a treat to see feild herping pics from europe

nocko
10th December 2007, 23:51
Las bernardezis nunca estan juntas, si tienes 5 en la mano a la vez es que las has ido cogiendo y guardando, o mas bien diria furtiveando, por otra parte no se debe coger urodelos por la cola jamas, ia que sufren, deberias dejar esos animales en si medio, que bastante escasos son hoy en dia :(

John
11th December 2007, 00:23
I`ll give you the benefit of the doubt regarding the collecting, but nocko`s other point regarding holding them by the tail probably has something to it. I don`t think anyone would recommend holding a salamander by its tail.

Slimy2
11th December 2007, 00:42
Nice findings. I love the colors of fire salamanders. They are so bright and colorful.:D

Azhael
11th December 2007, 12:03
Well...first off, i wasn´t the one holding them by the tail, it was a friend who works in a zoology department and deals with lots and lots of them every year. Trust me i was complaining the whole time about the way he was "holding" them. Yes we kept them for about half an hour, we found them all in the same street inside a village. We kept them because we wanted to meassure them and take comparative photos. They were ALL set back free in the exact same spot where they were each collected.
As you can see in the first photo, we had the materials to meassure them "in situ", so once we had our numbers and photos they were left alone.


Also Nocko...for not being ever together..we found them all in a 20 metre long street, and it took us 10 minutes to catch 6 salamanders. While we were going back to the house where we were staying we found another one, and all this happened inside a village so i wouldn´t say they were...scarce...I apreciate your concern, but i´m as concerned as you...and i would never take those beauties home.