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Hello amphibian lovers out there. I keep a majority of amphibians and I recently got a greater siren. It is an amazing creature! My question however is, How do you tell the difference between greater siren and lesser siren when they're still relatively small. There are a lot of photos I've seen online where the difference in the two is virtually unclear to me. Let me know all your opinions please. Thank you.
 
counting costal grooves is the only sure way, and not an easy task on a live siren. Even "experts" have trouble!

If your siren ever lays up against the side of the tank...approach carefully (cast no shadow, walk lightly) and see if you can count the grooves along the body from armpit to anus.

31-34 average for inermedia
36-39 for lacertina

I have one I've had for a year, sold to me as lacertina, but I am suspecting it is actually inermedia. It is much more secretive than any lacertina I've had, which makes counting near to impossible. It spends nearly all daylight hours totally buried in the gravel, or with just the head out and that diappears when I approach. I catch it scurrying about in the night, but if the lights go on, down it goes!
 
I have one I've had for a year, sold to me as lacertina, but I am suspecting it is actually inermedia. It is much more secretive than any lacertina I've had, which makes counting near to impossible. It spends nearly all daylight hours totally buried in the gravel, or with just the head out and that diappears when I approach. I catch it scurrying about in the night, but if the lights go on, down it goes!

I'm keeping both intermedia and lacertina and both species seem to be equally active once they settle into captive life. I find either species out and about searching the tank during any given time of day.
 
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