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sharelkaye
12th July 2008, 07:05
A while back I recieved to small juvie axies and while one grew the other didn't. I started to notice that the smaller one kept fliping over and swimming upside down, also could not stay down. He was floating and right before I started to notice he was almost swallowed by one of my older axies (they are seperated now don't worry about that) Anyway, after that it seems that he has a bubble on his abdomen underneath his stomach which is causing him to sloat upside down. He is still eating but not growing and Im worried he is getting stressed out and the bubble might burst or he just might not make it. Is there any way I can pop it in a way or a way to release the air so he can be normal?

gr33neyes
12th July 2008, 09:17
Could you post a picture of this 'bubble' please. Its hard to say what it is without seeing it. Please don't go bursting it just yet, it may be a cyst and you could open it up to infection.

sichbo1
12th July 2008, 14:32
Could it be a piece of gravel he has swallowed leading to a small prolapse?

sharelkaye
12th July 2008, 17:08
Im going to try to post a picture but it is clear and no there is no gravel for him to swallow but there is sand.

sharelkaye
12th July 2008, 17:33
Here are some pictures

sherylbobbins
13th July 2008, 05:50
Could there be something wrong with his swim bladder thingy? My goldfish had a problem with his and he floated upside for a month :sick: *shrugs*

gr33neyes
13th July 2008, 06:36
Funnily enough Sheryl I thought about that too, but I'm not sure about that bubble, its almost cyst like.

sichbo1
13th July 2008, 10:09
Poor thing! It could just be a birth defect. Lots of axolotls are inbred. Try and find a vet that has kwowledge of reptiles and amphibians. Good luck!

Kaysie
13th July 2008, 18:27
Amphibians don't have swim bladders.

gr33neyes
13th July 2008, 20:47
Well Thank you for that Kaysie, I wasn't sure. However do you have anything positive you could add? Noone seems to be helping out much. I have never seen it before and I doubt many have.
I'm afraid if it were my axolotl I would be thinking the worst.

sherylbobbins
14th July 2008, 03:33
Well Thank you for that Kaysie, I wasn't sure. However do you have anything positive you could add? Noone seems to be helping out much. I have never seen it before and I doubt many have.
I'm afraid if it were my axolotl I would be thinking the worst.

I quite agree. I think most of us are out of our depth here lol. Maybe you should try asking the oh so wise John... he is all knowing ;)

Daniel
14th July 2008, 07:09
Has this bubble been there before he was halfway swallowed by the bigger one? This might be a result of the injury and filled with liquid. And it does not look very good.

I suggest to place him in clean, cool and shallow water (not much deeper than his height) with some plants in it so he might get a hold. If he is continually struggling for an upright position this will certainly stress him out.

sharelkaye
16th July 2008, 13:21
Thanks for all your opinions and help.
I have some questions to add.

If it is a cyst would it cause him to float like he is.
The first day I got him was the day he almost got swallowed so there was much time to see if there was anything wrong before that happened but he wasn't floating.
He trys so hard to turn over but its seems as this bubble like thing is not letting him.
He eats probably more than the other one his age and the other one is twice as big. I also thought it could be his bladder but i guess its not.

I just hope he isn't suffering and he servives and it goes away poor baby.

Well if anyone has anything else to add please keep adding.

sharelkaye
16th July 2008, 13:25
here are a picture of the two together sorry its not a better but you can see the difference in size

ianclick
16th July 2008, 21:41
Hi Shaye,

The "Bubble" could be a number of things as mentioned it is hard to tell from the photos. I would suggest that it is probably not a prolapse due to the location, and it is not a swim bladder thing as axolotls don't have them.

I think that the likeliest explanation is the one offered by Daniel. I would be finding a vet asap. This does not look like your normal run of the mill axie issue.

Is there any chance of a clearer photo of the "Bubble"?

Also your axies look a little thin and could do with fattening up. A good size for an axolotl is a body that is as wide as the head.

Best of Luck

areynoldssr
17th July 2008, 04:23
Question does anybody ever use antibiotics. I raise fish and I always have some on hand. And I use it on my clawed toads. You can buy the at pet stores and you can also order them. You use half the amount for fish for several days and it clears up just about everything even open wounds.

ianclick
17th July 2008, 11:14
Hi Snake

Antibiotics are used to treat infections caused by bacteria. They do not work against other organisms such as fungi or infectious agents such as viruses.

So if its not a bacterial infection antibiotics won't help, if it is then they probably will and many breeders and keepers have used them successfully when needed.

sharelkaye
26th July 2008, 02:49
Hey everyone he is still alive and I have seperated the two and put the bigger one in the main tank because he was starting to nibble on the poor little guy. He is still eating but still not getting any bigger I was doing some research and I was thinking it might be fluid build up cause by damage of the heart or kidneys when he was almost eaten by the bigger one. Does that sound like a good conclusion. Im hoping to find someone to drain it for me or i just might have to do it my self and i am not to fond of needles.

ianclick
26th July 2008, 05:27
Hi Shaye

That is a posibility, I would try and get a vet to do the draining if I was, you there is a lot that can be damaged.

carlymf89
28th July 2008, 05:37
The same thing happened to my albino juvenile! I had him in the fridge for a long time, I tried giving him salt baths. Slowly the bubbles got bigger and bigger and he stopped eating. Eventually he died :(. If you find a way to cure your axie, please post! When my axie was sick no one really knew what to do or what was going on.

sharelkaye
5th August 2008, 01:42
Bad News, He stopped eating and soon after died and I am very sad to see him go, but im just glad that he isn't suffering anymore. If anyone finds out what it was that caused his death or the bubble please post so maybe it will help someone else out. Thank you

Terri9967
5th August 2008, 03:15
Awwwww So sorry you lost your axie. Please dont let this scare you off from trying again with another precious axie.

sharelkaye
13th August 2008, 03:27
Well I have four others that are getting big and are healthy and the one that passed away was one a got for free with the purchace of the other one I got at the same time, so I wasn't even perpared for an extra one, but I loved him while I had him anyway