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simon guitarguy
31st August 2009, 20:16
I've been looking into keeping axolotls for a few months and am setting up tank to keep a single albina axolotl. would this setup be ok?
http://www.caudata.org/forum/picture.php?albumid=685&pictureid=6464
thanks :)

Coastal Groovin
31st August 2009, 21:06
Looks good. I would only add a large plastic plant that would come up from the bottom and float across the top to filter out some on the light from the room. Axies like it on the dark side. The large rocks are great. You didn't do the most comman mistake. A dark cave would be well liked by your axie also.

Aimee
31st August 2009, 21:18
Hello Simon and welcome to the forum :happy:

I think you've got a good start! My only suggestion would be to add another hidey hole or two or add some plants for your little fellow to hide in.

The rocks are beautiful. Where did you get them? If they are from the outdoors, be sure to keep an eye on pH, hardness, alkalinity, etc for a few days to make sure they won't impact water chemistry (I speak from personal experience :D).

Also, large rocks can make cleaning the aquarium a little more difficult as opposed to a sand substrate or no substrate at all since food and detrius are likely to sink between/beneath them. But as long as you keep this in mind when you syphon out your tank there should be no problem.
Some kind of food dish might be helpful for clean-up as well.

I've never thought having a rock substrate was much of a problem or hastle once I got used to getting the syphon around them and, personally, I think it looks better than sand. I've also heard that gravel and rocks are better for beneficial bacteria to cling on to than sand.

Anywho, there are a lot of great/knowledgeable people here who can probably give more input, but from the looks of it, I'd say your little guy is going to be quite happy :happy:

Good luck!

blueberlin
1st September 2009, 07:05
Hi Simon,

Is that a heater on the right side of the picture? Or a filter?

-Eva

simon guitarguy
1st September 2009, 09:55
thanks for all your help :)
i'll go buy a plastic plant. and a small food dish and post a photo when its all in. :)

its a filter. is that type ok? its just a normal internal tank filter. set on a low power so it doesn't move the water too much.

Greatwtehunter
1st September 2009, 10:04
As long as the filter doesn't cause too much water movement then it should be fine.

If you don't like the look of plastic plants you could try your hand at live plants like Elodea, it does well planted or just floating around.

simon guitarguy
4th September 2009, 14:27
i've added a small dish and an elodia plant, i've also changed the layout a bit, if everythings ok i'm planning on getting my axolotl tommorow :)
http://www.caudata.org/forum/picture.php?albumid=685&pictureid=6526

http://www.caudata.org/forum/picture.php?albumid=685&pictureid=6527

blueberlin
5th September 2009, 08:12
Hi Simon!

Got your axolotl yet? :happy:

I would suggest taking the one flower pot and turning it horizontal to the gorund instead of being cupped upward like it is now. Maybe put the bottom part unter the rocks; i.e., put the pot on the glass bottom and ease some rocks into it so the pot is flat. This would make the pot more like a cave, I think. As it is now, I don't think it will offer much shade as a hiding place.

I love the way you've integrated the dish. The plant looks nice, too, and should quickly spread to give you nice shade below.

-Eva

SludgeMunkey
5th September 2009, 09:58
The set up looks good! i agree with the others, burying the put part way to make a hide, or even cutting it in half at the diameter and making two hides out of it would make this set up even better!

How long has the tank been cycling?
You should let it run for a month with a feeder guppy or two in it to get the water chemistry stable before adding an axie.

flan123
5th September 2009, 12:03
I love the Elodea, but I had so many problems with mine, it just dies straight away!:eek:

simon guitarguy
5th September 2009, 12:30
i got him (or her) this morning theres a vid on youtube if anyone wants to have a look:) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXRpI-bi6eo
since i filmed that ive moved the plant pot. and i took a water sample into paws for thought (local exotic petshop) it was voted best pet shop in the contry and the people there spent a few hours talking to me about them so i felt it was safe to get it from there :).
i got a wild type in the end :)

flan123
5th September 2009, 14:51
Somebody posted that they obtained their Axie from Paws for Thought only a day ago and I'm sure they said they weren't in very good condition?

big a little a
5th September 2009, 15:21
Hi Simon

Congratulations on your new axie - he looks really nice and in good condition - perhaps he could do with fattening up just a little bit, but I'm sure that after a couple of weeks chomping on earthworms, he will look plumpalicious :D.

Have you thought about what to call him?

If you are able to get him a cave or a half log hide, this would be great, as it does still look quite bright in the tank on your video and your little guy will welcome as many hides as possible!

Also, I would advise in purchasing a water test kit (for PH, ammonia, nitrite and nitrate) - the type with test tubes (I think they're called colourmetric?) are better than dip stick tests (in fact, the dip stick tests are terrible).

Good luck with your new pet!

Zoe x

Jennewt
5th September 2009, 15:21
It looks healthy. While it doesn't hurt to test the water chemistry now, it will be even more important to test it every day or two over the entire first MONTH. The ammonia spike usually hits at around a week or two. You do have a siphon, right?? If not, get one for sure.

simon guitarguy
6th September 2009, 10:14
thanks for all your help,
my dads compost bit outside is full of red worms, could my axie eat those? so far ive fed him on live blood worm and have a box of frozen ones for when he finishes the live ones.
i'm gonna cut the plant pot in half today:)
is there a type of kit i can get that has it all in one?

simon guitarguy
6th September 2009, 10:38
and yeah i have a siphon

Steve
6th September 2009, 10:50
I feed my axies with red worms from the compost bin which is great as there are so many of them there at the moment and I know what goes into the compost. They are also so easy to get as I think they are having orgies in there and clump together in balls. :)

I also feed mine floating terapin sticks ((reptomin is the make) as the pet store where I got them back along recomended) which they take from the surface with style.

Ive only had ax's a short while really but I personally like the hands on approach to looking after them, changing 2 litre of water every other day and cleaning out the filter and gravel once a week, replacing all waters with some that I have had stood around in bottles under the sink for at least two days.

Great beasties and my nex task is to strengthen the shelf they are on and give them a little more room in a bigger tank.

simon guitarguy
6th September 2009, 11:57
do i have to do anything to the worms before i give him them?

Steve
6th September 2009, 16:08
I dont as a rule beyond a quick rinse and no problems encountered at all so far.

simon guitarguy
6th September 2009, 16:40
thanks:)
I tryed him with one earlyer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOV0u3Dnc9s
but unfortuntly it came back out a few minuets later :(
was the worm a bit too big?:confused:
since i filmed that i've cleaned the tank, reduced the amount of rocks (there really hard to clean) gonna switch to sand soon :)
and ive put 2 half plantpots in at either side, hes climbing on them now :D

and thanks for all your help everyone :D

flan123
7th September 2009, 11:44
Rinsing the worms wouldn't really help too much. I rinse mine to remove the mud and dirt from the outside of the worm. Then, soak them in a tub with tank water in. Leave them about ten mins and the water will go cloudy - this is removing the 'gunk' from inside the worm also!

big a little a
7th September 2009, 16:51
To be honest, it could be that your axie does not like red worms - they release quite a nasty substance that can be off putting to a lot of axies - if you have a look at the description of red wigglers on this page, you will see what I mean -

http://www.caudata.org/cc/articles/foods.shtml

My axie loves earthworms (nightcrawlers), but I fed a red wiggler once by mistake and he refused to eat any kind of worms for a few weeks after because he was that put off.

If you are getting worms from your garden, you should be able to find nightcrawlers as well (the white-yellowy kind of earthworm) - perhaps you could try him on these?

Edit: Having just watched your video, it could be worth trying him on a smaller worm or, if you are using that size, chopping the worm in half, as this will make it easier for him to swallow. I would still try using a nightcrawler as opposed to a red wiggler though. I normally select a worm and pop it in a sieve - I then rinse under the tap until all soil is off - I then pop the worm in a cup of tank water - then the worm becomes dinner :D.

Zoe x