Illness/Sickness: Help! My axie's got a bloated throat! :(

Lacrima · Feb 17, 2010

Dear All,

Please, help!! My axie is ill and I have no idea how to help her.
The symptoms are as follows: her goiter has swollen so much that even her mouth is slightly open. This makes her head so heavy that she finds it difficult to move because her tail moves upward.

The temperature of waterin the tank is never higher than 20 degrees C. There are no strong water flows, and she couldn't have swallowed anything (we checked). We use SERA aquatan water conditioner and recently we've used SERA floremette A fertilizer tablets (for plants).

We are trying to treat her with antibiotics: Amikacin injections (5mg/1kg in isotonic solution). We've made two injections so far (one in 48 hours, today it was the second time).

Anyway, we've no idea whether is is stomatitis or some kidney/heart/organ problem.

We've tired to contact veterinaries in Latvia in search of help, but no one knows how to treat diseases of axolotles.

I would be very thankful if you could help with advice.

Thank you in advance for your replies.
Julia

Bellabelloo · Feb 17, 2010

Hi.
There was a similar case here a while back.
http://www.caudata.org/forum/f46-be...olotl/64568-please-help-our-sick-axolotl.html
I hope this helps.
Julia

tuxar linuxarmy · Feb 18, 2010

may i ask if you got apple snails ?

axolots tent to swollow them and then get stuck

Kerry1968 · Feb 19, 2010

Also the stones in thetank look small enough to be swallowed, even if they haven't caused the swollen throat in your axie. Sorry I can't help, hope your axie gets better.

Lacrima · Feb 21, 2010

Hello, everyone!

Thanks for advice.
We've finished antibiotics course, but no result so far.
I think we will try fridging, just need to read more about it, since we've never done it before...Hope it helps...

RE: apple snails
We do not have any in our tank.

RE: small stones
Do you think sand will be better? Or shall we try big stones (will it be convenient for axie's feet)?

Julia

Bellabelloo · Feb 21, 2010

Well rinsed sand will be fine, the larger stones are a nuisance as they trap and hide debris. I prefer no substrate as it is much easier to keep clean.

Coastal Groovin · Feb 21, 2010

That gravel has to go. Your axies throat problem is probally caused by that. I would say that there is a 75% chance that he has injested gravel. Fridge him for a few days and see if he spits it up. Sand or a bare bottom tank is the only two ways that is recommended for keeping Axies. Although I love your gravel and plants axies just end up eating the gravel. Some axies even die from the impaction. Fridgeing and time are the only things you can do. Chances are he will spit them up over a few days. Good luck

Lacrima · Feb 21, 2010

Thank you for loads of valuable advice!

We have put our Axie into the fridge (after having read the following link: Axolotl Sanctuary). I hope it helps!

We are a bit worried though about how she feels there alone in coldness...

I will keep this thread updated about Mashka's progress!

If you have any other ideas about how to help her apart from fridging and antibiotics, please, let me know.

By the way, do you think it could be a good idea to use salt baths??

Thanks in advance for your comments/advice (separate thanks from Mashka

).

Julia

melfly · Feb 21, 2010

No. Salt baths are for fungus. Your axolotl will be fine in the fridge. It will help her to de-stress and help her to heal. Mel

callina · Feb 21, 2010

silly question, ...... but did you already look into her mouth if there´s a foreign object in it?

Lacrima · Feb 21, 2010

Well, we haven't really opened her mouth to look in, but she ate the day before yesterday, and there seemed to be nothing foreign in her mouth.
Anyway, we will try to check tomorrow when we change water in her fridge nano-tank...Thank you

Lacrima · Feb 22, 2010

Hello, everyone!

Our Mashka is still alive! We haven't noticed any changes in her condition.

We have tried to feed Mashka, but she doesn't want to eat.

If something happens, we will post it here at once.

Andrey (Mashka's Papa)

callina · Feb 22, 2010

Hi Lacrima,

did you look into her mouth?

Your axie looks very similar to the axie of my friend. The poor little axie had a ramshorn snail in his mouth and it had to be removed with a forceps.
My friend has posted it in our German forum http://www.ambystoma-board.de

Tina

Lacrima · Feb 24, 2010

Hi, everyone!!

We have an update! Yesterday Mashka pooed with several small stones (0.5cm in diameter) and today, after having changed water in her nano-tank, we have looked into her mouth and found a huge decorative 1,5x1,1x0,5cm stonein it! God knows how she managed to swallow it. It took us almost an hour to take it out..she didn't even resist when we were trying to pull out that stone (poor thing). By the way, we took it out with the help of a teaspoon!

We decided to leave her in the fridge till tomorrow to relieve after such a stress. Hope she'll be fine now...Tomorrow we'll take a photo of her and post it here
We will change the gravel in the tank without delay!

Maybe it's too early, but we'd like to thank everyone in this thread who contributed and who tried to help! Thank you, guys!! :wacko:

Julia and Andrey

melfly · Feb 24, 2010

Oh dear, glad its out now!
They will try and eat anything that they can get in their mouths....
Mel

Bellabelloo · Feb 24, 2010

I am so glad thats sorted. Do keep an eye on her, maybe keep her fridged for a few more days so you can see what is coming out.

Lacrima · Mar 1, 2010

Hello!

Mashka is back to her tank now, and we've changed the gravel (now we use sand).

:happy:

Bellabelloo · Mar 1, 2010

She looks great, lovely to see.

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