View Full Version : Does he/she look sick?

17th May 2011, 03:59
do you think she/he looks sick there is a before and after shot the before looks much better than now :(


17th May 2011, 04:03
pleeeeeeaaassss!!!!! help me :(..... and if you can could you tell me what sex smokey is?

17th May 2011, 04:29
first off, remove that gravel. your axie has probably swallowed some of it, and this can cause impaction of the digestive tract which can be fatal. the only substrate suitable for axies is sand, or not having one at all. remember, axies come naturally from a freshwater lake, and that would imply a substrate consisting of sand and or mud would occur in said habitat.

apart from that, your axie seems fine. a well fed axie should have a body as wide as it's head, and should be fed on live earthworm and bloodworm.

as long as your water tests and temperature all check out fine, you will be doing ok.

17th May 2011, 05:22
ohhh thanks so much i was really worried heaps about smokey thanks again

17th May 2011, 06:00
but do you know why does he have blacky type gill other than his red ones in the 'before' picture and could you tell what sex smokey is? and why smokey is shedding so much?

17th May 2011, 06:08
He may be shedding because there could be a water quality issue. Axis don't have scales, so they are susceptible to ammonia burns. This could also explain why his gills are different. It's hard to tell what sex he is from the pictures you have provided, but males have pronounced bumps just behind their back legs and females don't. You can usually tell what gender they are when they are about a year old.

17th May 2011, 06:20
what kind of sand would you suggest and how do i check the water quality and i wiil check the PH reading now thanks

17th May 2011, 06:25
its a little darker than 7.6 is that bad?

17th May 2011, 06:30
PH doesn't matter too much, as long as its stable. Its the nitrate, Nitrite and Ammonia you need to worry about.

Its good to buy a complete testing kit and test the water each week :)

17th May 2011, 06:58
about the sand i went to bunnings and got a 20kg bag of kids play sand for about $9 and i only used about half the bag but you have to rinse the sand for quite a while till all the lighter stuff is gone.

17th May 2011, 07:08
thanks for that i hope the little guy will be okay for afew days before i can get the stuff... do you think that river sand with a wash out would do the trick?

17th May 2011, 12:02
thanks for that i hope the little guy will be okay for afew days before i can get the stuff... do you think that river sand with a wash out would do the trick?

Better safe than sorry - go for a bare bottom tank until you get some sand.
Personally, I wouldn't use river sand, as you don't know what else is in there.
Remember to rinse your new sand for AGES (a tip is to put it in a bucket outside + just let a hose run through it, giving it a swirl every so often, until the water runs clear.

I like Smokey's double row of dots down his / her sides ;)

Have you put the later photo 1st? If so, I can see the peeling + the misted up eye is what I noticed 1st - is that just the angle / lighting from the camera? Didn't notice any gill colour change though, despite comparing gill fluffiness / length in both photos while trying to decide on the differences.

17th May 2011, 12:44
yeah the later photo is first i didnt turn out how i wanted it to ;) and heres another photo but i dont know why her eye is cloudy and her gills dont look as healthy im wondering why? ill put it on later the coms screwing up

17th May 2011, 13:05
kk hear it is

17th May 2011, 22:42
The gills look fine.

Cloudy eyes are usually caused by nutritional deficiencies.

17th May 2011, 23:15
how do i help that?

18th May 2011, 00:02
What kind of food are you offering? Have you gotten rid of the gravel?

18th May 2011, 00:39
i feed her earth worms, tad poles and axolotl pellets
and no i havnt taken out the gravel yet like im only 13 and im sick at the moment so i cant do much

18th May 2011, 00:56
I would stop feeding tadpoles. They can transmit diseases.

If you can't take the gravel out, you need to take the axolotl out of the tank and put it in the fridge. I think you're failing to understand that if it eats the gravel (and it will) it could die.

18th May 2011, 01:01
yes i know that i have to ill try to do it today

18th May 2011, 01:02
so il put her in the fridge what temperature does the fridge have to be at?

18th May 2011, 01:04
i just looked and im out of botteld water

18th May 2011, 01:10
what temp does it have to be at?

soz i didnt realize there was a second page

18th May 2011, 01:18
You can use dechlorinated tap water. Set your fridge between 5-10C.

18th May 2011, 01:23
how do i do this i probably know what your talking about but i dont really know the actuall names and do you think i could use some water out of the tank?

and if your talking about the stuff that kills the clorine and all that how much would i put in an ice box because thats what i use to put her in when cleaning the tank

18th May 2011, 01:26
and where do you think i could get sand for the tank?

18th May 2011, 01:44
You can get the sand from it is cheap. Childrens play sand is what it is called.
The stuff I think your talking about is called Prime.

18th May 2011, 01:52
ok cool
but are you sure its safe for them?

18th May 2011, 02:35
sure am, i use it for my tanks. It is 1 drop per 2 lts of water. Just follow the directions on the bottle.

18th May 2011, 02:48
i mean the sand for the bottom of the tank yeah and how much would you reccomend for a ice box

18th May 2011, 02:50
and for the ice box how much declorination stuff would i put in?

18th May 2011, 03:10
You dont need the sand to be very deep. I just cover the bottom of my tank. How big is your tank?? I would cover the bottom so it is about 1cm deep. I dont think you will need any sand for the ice box your axie can live without sand for a while.
You will have to measure the ice box and work out how many litres it takes. When Im testing how much water, I get a 2lt milk bottle and fill it up and then add 1 drop of prime, then count how many times I tip it into the container Im try to measure.

18th May 2011, 03:20
i got muddeled up i didnt ask how much sand i need for the ice box okay so thanks hope the little guy likes it when we put sand in
(:) haha i worked out a axi face

18th May 2011, 03:32
Is all good. Your axie will love it. I like to smooth out the sand before I go to bed and then when I wake up there is little footprints in the sand.....it is very cute.
The axie face is cute...well done.
Make sure you keep asking questions if you are unsure.
Please post a photo for your set up when your done.....

18th May 2011, 05:46
ok the tank is in progress now little smokey was a little stressed when we took her out but she will be happy to get back in the new one :)

18th May 2011, 06:26
here you go..........

18th May 2011, 12:17
I hate to nitpick on you, but your sand is really deep. You'll want to remove a lot of that, or you risk forming anaerobic pockets in it, which can create hydrogen sulfide, which can actually poison your axolotl. All you need is a few cm on the bottom.

I like your hidey cave!

18th May 2011, 22:12
I love your cave...it looks great. Please do what kaysie suggested with the sand. It can make your axie sick.
A few plants and your tank is will be a nice happy place for your axie to live in no time.
We all make newby mistakes.....so dont stress over it, thats why this forum is such a great place, info at your finger tips from experienced keepers who have kept these wonderful creatures for a number of years.

18th May 2011, 23:05
hahaha every body like the cave no thanks i liked the idea to smokey looks super better and super happier thanks for help

18th May 2011, 23:45
by the way does anybody know what this is?

19th May 2011, 00:01
Are you talking about the mark near his tail?? It could be a healed injury. Smokey doesnt live with anything else does he??? He live on his own??

19th May 2011, 00:04
no smokey lives alone no wounds that i know of and it had a nice big worm then i take it it was hungry

19th May 2011, 00:06
and yes the mark near its tail

19th May 2011, 00:15
I dont know what it is then.....keep an eye on it just in case. Someone with more experience might be able to help later.....sorry
Are you still sick as well???

19th May 2011, 00:28
yeah imm still sick ive got a flu

19th May 2011, 01:17
you poor thing. This way you have more time to plan your axie tank:) i hope you get better soon.

19th May 2011, 01:25
thanks and thats true more planning to goe

19th May 2011, 04:20
question how long will it take to make that stuff with the sand that could poison smokey?

19th May 2011, 04:40
Im not sure of that...sorry......but i would do it as soon as you can just to be safe, until you can get the sand out I would run my fingers through it everyday so it mixes the sand up and the gases cant build up and turn nasty.

19th May 2011, 05:12
another question do axi's dig in the sand?

19th May 2011, 12:09
They can do, when looking for food, but not like a dog would dig a hole in the garden. Having said that, all axies are different, so it's possible that some might enjoy having a good dig just for the sake of it ;)

20th May 2011, 00:29
Cookie moves the sand around all the time. I have a chiller under the tank which has a blue light that you can see, Cookie also likes to look at it :D. So when I do a water change I fix the sand up so it looks nice and even, That night Cookie must notice that she cant see the light and moves all the sand away again.

20th May 2011, 02:29
smokey when i did the water change afterwards she dug two small holes with each hand and than just layed down it looked quite cute ;)

20th May 2011, 07:28
will it still make hydrogen sulfide if it has plants in there?

20th May 2011, 13:16
Yes, it will.

You really need to remove some of the sand.

20th May 2011, 23:16
well ive already done about half of it im doing it bit by bit so it doesnt upset her to much last thing we need is sand in her gills