Don´t you think advicing people to get potentially ill newts as their first newts without mentioning the possible problems is quite bad advice? Oh sure, they are the perfect choice, no problem, go ahead.....and two weeks later they may well be on the help section wondering what´s wrong.
I get what you are saying and i realize that in many cases, H.orientalis is basically the only option, in which case....well..it´s the only option. It´s not always the case, though, that´s for sure, many people just start with them because they didn´t know better, and what i´m trying to do is guide people who haven´t acquired any newts yet but are thinking about it into getting what´s best for them. And what´s best for them is certainly not an animal that is likely to have problems. Just look at all the cases of people with orientalis which are terrestrial and refusing to eat, with sores, emaciated, etc....don´t you think those people would have apreciated if someone had told them, hey, this may happen, be prepared, or better yet, here´s a way to avoid it.
Educating them into getting healthy newts is exactly what i´m trying to do. How do you educate someone to find healthy H.orientalis? You can tell them the basic characteristics of a healthy animal but there is no guarantee whatsoever that an animal that apparently looks fine, will continue to be fine after purchase. Obviously most people don´t go around purchasing the sickest looking, thinnest individuals...they try to get the best ones they find, and still, problems are plentiful.
I apreciate that we have different opinions regarding the WC market, but this is about giving the best advice, not about individual morals. And, frankly, if you tell someone to go ahead and get orientalis, and don´t bother to mention the very relevant possible consequences, then you are providing extremely incomplete advice.
I would have had no problem if you had said "go ahead, they are a great option, BUT here is some stuff you need to know" and proceded to actually provide information, even if you were promoting them as the ideal option, because at least you would have provided information and advice. If you don´t, then how are you educating? There is no info, no advice...
I think it was an ad for T.dobrogicus, a group of 4 for 60 dollars or something like that. I know that the market is different there, and that access to CB is very limited to certain people, but that doesn´t mean i can´t tell them about their possibilities. That way, at least they know, and IF it´s an option for them, they can make up their own minds.
I mean, isn´t it better to try to provide someone with complete information, even if you bore the hell out of them with your "lecture", than sending them on their way with absolutely no knowledge of what may happen or what their possible options may be?
About people not wanting to wait to get what they want..well, that´s the era of consumerism for you. Still i don´t think it´s amiss to advice someone to be patient and take it easy....after all there´s stuff to do before buying anything (WC, CB, purple, with wings, it doesn´t matter) like cycling a tank, or preparing food cultures.
PS: By the way, i hope that didn´t sound too agressive, it wasn´t my intention, and sorry for the rambling and the long speech :S