Question: Cherry shrimp VS guppies?

ZoeT94 · Sep 5, 2011

Heya!

I just wanted to know, which are the easier of the two to breed, feed and maintain, because sooner or later I may start a little tank to make a more varied feed for my little monsters, who do so love to hunt their worms...

And also, I googled this question but never really got any answer! Can I use a heater in a plastic tank, if I have it on polystyrene or something? Because I don't really want a glass tank and I know that CS sometimes need heated water, and guppies too?

Thanks in advance!

carsona246 · Sep 5, 2011

I recently have bred both. Cherry shrimp are pretty easy to breed in my opinion, but so are guppies. You don't need a heater in either tank, Cherry shrimp breed happily in 68 degree water, and so have my guppies. They are tropical fish/invertebrates, and probably prefer a heater, but I intended on putting all the shrimp/guppies in the tank once I had a large enough population, so I just left them without a heater, but no fan on the tank. The biggest problem with both is that the fry will get sucked up by the filter intake. So just be careful on the type of filter you're using. I used 40 shrimp to breed for about 2 months, and in those 2 months my population had to have at least doubled, if not tripled. I've had 3 guppies for about a month, and I now have to have at least 25 guppy babies that I caught before the parents ate them, and a few stragglers I can't catch because i have too many plants in the tank.

ZoeT94 · Sep 5, 2011

Okay, so both would do fine in a small, say 20ltr tank, plastic, with gravel and plants? and no heater!

And in relation to breeding, with CS do you have to take the babies away so they don't get eaten? Or is it just with guppies? In which case, the CS are easier to breed, no?

And I would probably use a biochemical sponge filter, attatched to a pump...

carsona246 · Sep 5, 2011

Yes they should be fine without a heater, unless it gets really cold where you are. I've read about people who stick cherry shrimp in big water barrells outside and just let them breed, and they do fine over cold temps. You do not have to worry about the baby shrimp getting eaten, and in this sense shrimp would be easier to breed then guppies, but shrimp are also a little more sensitive to water quality then guppies. That being said, cherry shrimp are pretty darn hardy for shrimp. I would stick as many plants in the tank as you can(guppy grass is an awesome shrimp plant).

xxianxx · Sep 5, 2011

You can breed both together, if you ensure that there is plenty of vegetation to hide the baby guppies and shrimp. I tend to move my baby guppies to my juvenile axolotl tank to avoid the parents eating them, though the juvys may eat a few it allows them to get to a bigger size and be fed to my adult frogs and axolotls.

ZoeT94 · Sep 5, 2011

Cool! Thanks for the info! Now all I need is some dosh

xxianxx · Sep 6, 2011

Check the free adds and other sites for cheap tanks and you can pick up cheap shrimp and guppies from hobbiests selling surples stock.

ZoeT94 · Sep 6, 2011

If I do decide to have a backup heater, but I had them in a plastic tank, would that be okay? Or would I have to use a glass tank in order to use a heater safely?

rasputin · Sep 6, 2011

Is it good to feed Axolotls on shrimp regularly?

We left ours alone for a few days and put some glass/river shrimp in with them. They had all gone when we got back and I was thinking of trying to farm them but I wasn't sure about feeding them that much shell.

xxianxx · Sep 7, 2011

ZoeT94 said:
If I do decide to have a backup heater, but I had them in a plastic tank, would that be okay? Or would I have to use a glass tank in order to use a heater safely?

Yes a plastic tank is ok, guppies like temps 22-30c (72-86 farenheit), if you have a warm house which doesnt have a night time drop in temp of more than a couple of degrees c, you can dispense with a heater. Check out specialist guppy sites they are as nerdy as us axolotl fans.

xxianxx · Sep 7, 2011

rasputin said:
Is it good to feed Axolotls on shrimp regularly?

We left ours alone for a few days and put some glass/river shrimp in with them. They had all gone when we got back and I was thinking of trying to farm them but I wasn't sure about feeding them that much shell.

The river shrimp (thats what they were labelled as dont know their name) that i bought from the pet shop were pretty suicidal and kept bumping into my axolotls, though they only did it once each lol. If you want to get shrimp which only occasionaly get eaten and can clean the tank try cherry shrimp, they look pretty to.

ZoeT94 · Sep 8, 2011

I have one more question!!! Okay, so I plan on starting a little collony for my axies, both snackies and backup food source, but I read somewhere that in order to breed them, I need to keep RC's at a stable temperature of 27 degrees (celcius). Is this correct or would they breed at around 22 degrees?

Thank you!!!

carsona246 · Sep 8, 2011

totally incorrect, I breed mine at about 20-22 right now.

helobed · Sep 8, 2011

I find that, yes, mine breed at 18 - 22 degrees, but they tend to breed much more readily at around 27. I suppose it's whatever works for you

ZoeT94 · Sep 9, 2011

Okay! Thanks peoples!

I will be getting a plastic tank, a light, lots of plants, and using the gravel and wood i have!!

Then sooner or later getting some shrimp :ufo:

Loobylou · Sep 9, 2011

xxianxx said:
The river shrimp (thats what they were labelled as dont know their name) that i bought from the pet shop were pretty suicidal and kept bumping into my axolotls, though they only did it once each lol.

I brought around 15 river shrimp and threw them in my adult axies tank. The next morning there was half a shrimp left and a very tubby axie. I guess they really are suicidal shrimp!

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