Are these all P. waltl?

Rather than clog up Michael Strom's post on P. nebulosus, I thought I'd start a new thread.

Basically, I have 5 newts. Two of them were given to me and I was told they were ribbed newts. But the male of the two always looked odd. He is much smaller than the other boys (I put that down to age and him being in a small tank before coming to me), and very orange in colour. The rib that extends from the tail up the centre back of these newts is much further up his back than the others - see pictures if you don't get what I mean!

Anyway, here are a few photos of my newts. Any opinions on what species they all are?


This one shows how orange he is compared to the others:




That's him again on the right. The female he came with is the fat, but small one on the left of him. The others are all males, and I believe they are related (from a rescue centre, so I can't be sure):

Do you have any pictures while they're in an aquarium taken from one of the sides? The watersurface makes it hard to see the shape of the head. Orange is more typical for waltl than nebulosus, so I really thing that the smaller male is a waltl. Nebulosus has bulging eyes compared to waltl. Waltl cheeks seem to be more "bulldog like". Sorry, don't know how to describe it. Waltl is more plump.

Thanks for your reply! I'll try to get a better picture of him in the tank tomorrow. I'll also have a good look at their faces and see if there are any obvious differences.

He does have huge eyes relative to his head (and the other newts).....

Thanks for that Jay! Mine all have the rib spots, and looking at your photos with nebulosus and waltl together, it's clear what mine are - without the comparison, it can be difficult to tell sometimes! Thanks again, that's put my mind at ease.