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snootyfox
27th December 2011, 22:54
Hey Guys,

Just wondered if you could spare me a couple of mins to let me know your thoughts on something.

I'd like to set up a thread on here to create a bit of a network for caudate owners near to where we live. It's useful for to know that there is someone not far who can take in our axies and andersonis, should we need to go away for a week or so, and in return do the same, creating a shared tank space where axies can always get the care that they need.

This idea came recently as we decided to stay home for Christmas. Our friend had offered to look after the axies so we could go away but she does not have the experience to look after them (maintain husbandry, feed them all their specific foods, take care to wash hands thoroughly before putting them in the tank etc) so we had considered fridging them all until we returned. Then we realised their water would need changing every day.
We are not comfortable with the idea of a pet sitter in our house, or people we don't know being aware of our absence.
We don't even know of a boarding service for axies. Certainly we would not have our babies returned to the terrible myriad pet stores we obtained them from.

Thus we thought if we knew more people in our area with axolotls then we could bring the axies over to stay in the 'sitter's fridge, knowing that they would be fed and changed by experienced axie owners. I think adding them to existing tanks rather than fridging could stress them, and introduce them to unusual water conditions, but it's a thought. We always keep a tank cycled and monitored in the case of squabbles in the pack :) It also creates a nice local network of knowledge and owners - say one of our sitters had run completely out of live foods over a bank holiday weekend. We can share our worms and guppies and there will always be a cup of dechorinator to borrow :)

Does this sound appealing to anyone? Could we make it a separate topic or sticky if there's enough interest?

I'm happy to start off - I live in central London and currently only keep axies and andersonis. Would idealy like to meet same as I'm not familiar with other species but I'm keen to learn just in case :)

Please reply to this thread rather than inbox me initally - I want all (if any!) interest to be on display so we can try to encourage others to do the same and try and grow the local networks within caudata.org!!

Let me know your thoughts - if it's a terrible idea, I'll shut up :)

x Charlie

Rubyfox
27th December 2011, 23:13
I think its a great idea, but I am new to looking after Axolotls so may-be in a few months time I will feel happy to look after somebody ele's while there away. I live in Lancaster, Lancashire.

bellabelloo
27th December 2011, 23:16
I think its a good idea, I have 'boarded' a few here over the last couple of years.

Azhael
27th December 2011, 23:49
I know iīm not british, but i wanted to say itīs a nice idea. Everything that creates a local community is always good. I know itīs something iīd like to have where i live.
I too have some reservations about moving the animals from one place to another, but well, thatīs me, plus there are plenty of other things which would be worthwhile as you have suggested.

Also, bare in mind that depending on the characteristics of your tank and the state of your animals it may be entirely possible to leave them alone for a week or perhaps more. Being a large bodied species means they can tolerate a considerable amount of fasting, plus they are oportunistic predators so they can deal with shortages of food. Of course they have their limits but a few days shouldnīt necessarily be an issue at all. I just thought iīd mention it in case someone might be tempted to drop their animals for just a few days which may be unnecessary.

snootyfox
28th December 2011, 01:16
Hey!

Thanks for the replies so far - spread the word! Let's make it happen!!

Rodrigo - You're so right - but my A.Andersoni WILL eat eachother if they are without feeding every day. They aren't vicious but goodness they eat non-stop!!

xC

bellabelloo
28th December 2011, 11:57
I have been thinking about this since you posted. Most caudates will be fine left alone for a couple of weeks with out any problems. Summer time however can on occasion be risky if their environment can become too hot, though I found my lot where fine with all windows/doors/ curtains shut and any heat making appliances switched off.
Perhaps a section for 'Caudate Boarding' offers might be the way to go ?

snootyfox
28th December 2011, 15:04
Yes I agree that they should be fine for a couple of weeks - but I know especially when my andersoni are hungry, if I don't feed them then they snap at eachother. I'm more interested in creating a network locally, so I know there are always people around in London who can take a baby here or there, especially when our Andersoni's lay their eggs. A boarding thread is a great idea - but would it also be a good idea to structure a part of the forum around countries (then towns) etc? This creates a bit of awareness of herpy people close to you. It's a great networking tool - just the other day, my other half mentioned one of our babies on twitter and instantly someone very locally made contact, wanting to know about other places in London where there are axolotls and a bit of a link was made there. It's an exciting prospect to discover people locally with the same hobby as you, and hopefully will prove very useful too!

bellabelloo
28th December 2011, 15:14
I do like your idea, and it would be good to know that there may be other caudate addicts close by. I recently discovered some one that I have communicated with for years on another forum lives barely 5 minutes from me .
When I joined here, there was a map, that you could pin your location to, I have no idea where or even if it is still available for use.
Beside my name here I do have my location visible, but I notice many others don't. It might help if more people display this.

lollypop
28th December 2011, 15:14
Sounds good to me,
I'm in Bedfordshire close to Luton.
At the moment I have my eldest son looking after my animals, mainly because I have eggs due to hatch any day. ( I'm up north at my mums) normally I don't worry so much if I have to go away even if for a week or so I teen to feed them up bait before I go, so I know they will last well food wise. I do usually get someone to go in and just check the tanks haven't leaked or the filters shyphoned all the water out of a tank. ( have had that happen before:eek:)
So yeah someone who knew what they were doing in case of a longer break would be good.

iChris
29th December 2011, 10:29
what a good idea.

the only other user that lives near me is mereB... surely you all know her and her big tank. in-fact we both frequent the same aquarium stores!

kiathepooch
29th December 2011, 11:06
I too like this idea,more so if a holiday coincided with a load of newly hatched young!
I'm from east Lancashire,which is code for small mill town almost in the countryside lol


Sent,using the power of my mind.....

KingCanon
13th January 2012, 03:32
I have to give this idea as enthusiastic a thumbs up as is humanly possible. Not only does it create a boarding potential but there is the inherent social side to it too. I mean we all enjoy coming here for a chin wag (via keys) but what could be more comforting then knowing someone down the road who could pop in to diagnose odd symptoms? Who could accompany fist time buyers and helped to pick out the healthiest of the litter. Plus it opens up the network of proffered suppliers and so on.

I'm from a small village in Cheshire called Barnton I anyone's been here... I can only apologise it was so boring.

Bravo for the idea !


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I am here: http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=53.276793,-2.546038

snootyfox
13th January 2012, 12:05
Thanks so much KingCanon, I hope something comes of it! I still can't find any users from London :/

KingCanon
14th January 2012, 01:15
I'm sure I've noticed a couple? I think What's needed is a section dedicated to locations, separate it by country and then province then by species and then by requirement. That way a member can find breeders of paddle tails as easy as someone looking for live food providers in Alabama.
That way anyone who wants to know who's about them can.
However i'm not sure it's possible here or would need to be another site? Also it'd need to be elective. Not everyone wants their where abouts public knowledge (I'm now using an app that makes it blinking public knowledge so no one turn up at my house ya hear lol)

I'm not a web builder but it's either that or create a search and label system. Where users can designate them selves searchable by area and what they know and or have an interest in. I really would love to see the social side brought to life


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I am here: http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=53.276842,-2.546029

GazerOfStars
14th January 2012, 09:45
Sounds brilliant. An addition to your idea: I'm fairly certain services like Google Maps can host a sort of "Pin-up map" feature for sites. Members can plot a pin down where they are at and can have a link to their profile here if someone clicks on their pin.

Privacy doesn't need to be an issue, just plop your pin down in your city/town center so people will get the jist of where you live.

lollypop
14th January 2012, 10:47
I'm sure there used to be a world pin map showing all users on here, once upon a time :rolleyes:

Don't know what happened to it. ( or if it was my complete imagination) can't rember if it was linked from having your town in your little box thingy on your posts ( technical I'm not :D)

GazerOfStars
15th January 2012, 02:16
I'm sure there used to be a world pin map showing all users on here, once upon a time :rolleyes:

Don't know what happened to it. ( or if it was my complete imagination) can't rember if it was linked from having your town in your little box thingy on your posts ( technical I'm not :D)

Yep! That's what I was the thinking :) At the very least it would be neat to see where all our members are from.

KingCanon
13th February 2012, 21:00
I've started a thread that follows a similar line of thought.

Basically a local social network. A way to meet who's around you, expanding friends, knowledge and it can provide the support network for when we need it. It's not just about finding out where we all are it's those who want to meet those around them. I'm still trying to work out HOW to do it lol but I'll find away.


Sent from the comfort of my throne room

AxieMum
28th February 2012, 12:32
Ohhhhh this is good!! I have left my axies with my friends and their tanks always come back filled with uneaten food :-(
I live in Hertfordshire; to be specific, St Albans. Seems to be plenty of people nearby, Hatfield, Luton, London etc.

Sam77
16th April 2012, 21:39
Hi, I'm in Gosport, near Portsmouth on the south coast. I would love to know of anyone nearby that I can bug for advice!

lea
16th April 2012, 23:46
Im another Aussie like Chris but Im on the other side. Im in Brisbane, Queensland.
A few of the members here started a facebook group called axolotl-aholics

pookiewn
17th April 2012, 09:20
I'm near London, in Surrey :) Thankfully Vampybabe and I live locally to each other, so our holidays are covered. A network of axie lovers is a great idea :)

michel3171
2nd May 2012, 19:51
:confused:Maybe John should add a folder called: World Caudata Users
In here people can post their land, city and adress?
What do you guys think about it? :confused:

LPG
4th May 2012, 12:02
I would be interested but I doubt anyone in Japan lives close by me!

Visi
19th July 2012, 14:47
Yes, Lara, I think you and I may be the only two people in Japan on this site...

herpvet
21st July 2012, 05:48
Also, bare in mind that depending on the characteristics of your tank and the state of your animals it may be entirely possible to leave them alone for a week or perhaps more. Being a large bodied species means they can tolerate a considerable amount of fasting, plus they are oportunistic predators so they can deal with shortages of food. Of course they have their limits but a few days shouldnīt necessarily be an issue at all. I just thought iīd mention it in case someone might be tempted to drop their animals for just a few days which may be unnecessary.

Hello,

Sorry a bit off topic for this thread, but just a comment on this - while the animals themselves certainly could be fine without specific attention for this kind of period, I would have to say that I feel this is not advisable. Animal care/pet guidelines generally specify checking animals at least every 24 hours (if they specify), and while not absolute this is probably a good idea.

As stated most amphibs in a stable set-up don't need food/water/etc - but most rely on some sort of powered accessory to some extent, whether filter, heater/chiller, lighting etc. If that goes off for whatever reason, how quickly could problems arise?

Also if the animal developed a health problem, leaving it untended for several days or more could leave it subject to prolonged suffering.

Similarly, suppose one of a group of animal died just after you left, and decays, polluting the environment - particularly in an aquatic set-up that could be disastrous.

Not saying leaving an animal alone for 25 hours is cruel or anything like that but should the above should be borne in mind, and at least a brief check every 24 hours or so is generally advisable.

Hope this helps,

Bruce.