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HELP! Feeding problems...

hacelepues

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My larvae have just begun to hatch. The first one hatched on monday, so they are ranging between 3-1 day old.

My order of Daphnia arrived yesterday morning, and it turns out they are daphnia magna (I was a dummy and didn't ask what kind they were). While the adults are way too big, the babies seem small enough. I put a bunch of the smallest daphnia in the tub with the larvae and none have been eaten. I also tried feeding them egg yolk (I had heard from people on the forums that this works), but none seemed interested. I shook it up so that the particles were really tiny and would squirt it in front of them so that it would be moving, and none ate.

I'm very worried that I'm going to be unable to feed them and that they will die! Does anyone know of where I can order some D. Moina? I was looking at BBS but they wouldn't get to me until monday. I'm very worried!
 
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hacelepues said:
My larvae have just begun to hatch. The first one hatched on monday, so they are ranging between 3-1 day old.

My order of Daphnia arrived yesterday morning, and it turns out they are daphnia magna (I was a dummy and didn't ask what kind they were). While the adults are way too big, the babies seem small enough. I put a bunch of the smallest daphnia in the tub with the larvae and none have been eaten. I also tried feeding them egg yolk (I had heard from people on the forums that this works), but none seemed interested. I shook it up so that the particles were really tiny and would squirt it in front of them so that it would be moving, and none ate.

I'm very worried that I'm going to be unable to feed them and that they will die! Does anyone know of where I can order some D. Moina? I was looking at BBS but they wouldn't get to me until monday. I'm very worried!
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Hi,

I've found chopped live blackworms to be the best food for newly-hatched larvae; daphnia, brine shrimp will be taken, but growth much better with blackworms...please see this article re cautions (worms tend to clump & larvae sometimes choke).

The will also begin to cannibalize each other...see article for some ideas. They do not eat for a day or 2 after hatching, which may be what you're seeing. I've never used egg yolk. Crushed trout chow and reptomin works well, but I've found they rarely take these until they have put on some size, Please let me know if you need more info, and pl keep me posted.
 
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Hi,

I've found chopped live blackworms to be the best food for newly-hatched larvae; daphnia, brine shrimp will be taken, but growth much better with blackworms...please see this article re cautions (worms tend to clump & larvae sometimes choke).

The will also begin to cannibalize each other...see article for some ideas. They do not eat for a day or 2 after hatching, which may be what you're seeing. I've never used egg yolk. Crushed trout chow and reptomin works well, but I've found they rarely take these until they have put on some size, Please let me know if you need more info, and pl keep me posted.
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Interesting. Do you know where I could buy blackworms online? I've done some looking but they seems to be out of stock in most places.
 
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California Blackworms is the most popular vender.

Newborn D. magna will be fine in the meantime. Get a culture going!
 
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Interesting. Do you know where I could buy blackworms online? I've done some looking but they seems to be out of stock in most places.
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I don't know of any offhand, sorry; if you have a good tropical fish store nearby try there, as they are usually sold as fish food. Another option would be earhtworms...those sold as red wigglers are the smallest. You'll need to pick out tiny individuals and cut with a razor blade. As the larvae grow, earthworms can form most of their diet. You can breed them as well, so you'll always have tiny ones...please see here for more info and let me know if you need anything. Article mentions 70F as cut-off for earthworm colonies, but some strains/species can take warmer temps; worth experimenting. Best, Frank
 
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Kaysie said:
California Blackworms is the most popular vender.

Newborn D. magna will be fine in the meantime. Get a culture going!
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I've placed an order with them, they'll get here tomorrow! How tiny should I cut them?

And I'm trying to get the culture going. I have about 40.
 
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I've placed an order with them, they'll get here tomorrow! How tiny should I cut them?

And I'm trying to get the culture going. I have about 40.
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Hi, Use a razor blade and chop as tiny as possibly; they will continue to move for quite some time. They will "re-group" into clumps even after cut, and larvae sometimes choke on these. A commercial worm feeder may help (basket with tiny holes, often called Tubifex worm feeder) or you can swish them about from time to time. Best, Frank
 
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I like to chop them on a paper plate or towel with a sharp knife/blade. The plate makes it so they don't slide around so much while you're trying to cut them.
 
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Awesome. Thanks for all the advice! I've noticed some chasing the daphnia, so they're looking hungry now!

One last question... can larvae eat copepods? Because there are lots in their tubs as well (just from when I initially took the eggs out of the tank I'm sure).
 
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Copepods have been known to injure small larvae, but those that are a little more advanced shouldn't be bothered by them.
 
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They're carnivorous, and 'cluster feeders'. I don't think they would pose a problem to anything other than new hatchlings that can't get away fast enough.
 
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They aren't eating the worms! AGH!

If the worms get close to them they swim away. I don't know what to do :(
 
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